Mercedes to build Peugeot 205 GTi-fighting SCK AMG.
Are they going to run out of rivals before they run out of 3-letter combinations? Will they ever make a decent manual transmission? Stay tuned, for the exciting next episode of the S-class vs the Wurld!
Right, I'm going to be lazy and repost what I wrote on the SLS story because I was way too late to that party and I just want some attention (sorry boss jalops, I think I need more caffeine):
Hmm, I might be a little low on blood sugar but I can't help feeling incredibly unimpressed by the SLS (and now it's little brother).
By rights any car with those performance credentials and looks should have me wanting to sell my own balls to own it. Yet here I am completely nonplussed by the thing, like a wave of "meh" just washed over me whilst looking at it.
I'm not going to blame anyone in particular but I do think that this feeling I'm getting has a lot to do with just how cynical supercars (especially Mercs) have become of late. After seeing an SLR up close (ooh check me out) and having the pleasure of driving a previous generation AMG SL55 on a disused airstrip (again WOO go me!) I can't help but feel underwhelmed. I'm sure I'm not their target audience for this thing but then surely by the fact that there probably is a clearly defined target audience for this car I feel quite sad. A supercar shouldn't have to have a target audience, it should simply leap deep into your subconscious as soon as you see it and make you want it from the word go. The fact that this car didn't do just that has me worried, mainly because it isn't the first supercar to fail in that respect (Audi R8? Bentley Conti GT? McMerc? Dare I say Carrera GT?).
That's not to say that all supercars suffer the same problem, just that more and more of them are no longer the extreme automobiles they used to be. By definition a supercar should surely be an excessive overstatement in impracticality/power/styling. An exercise in how a car can be uncompromisingly single minded about being "super" in one area or another.
Granted there are cars that I still class as supercars that don't need to scream at me (Aston DBS) but at the very least they hint that they're more than just a handbag accessory (I'm looking at you Bentley!).
As a life long gearhead I'm a bit depressed by some of it but I know there's still hope. With things like the Veyron, the (Nissan) GTR, the Corvette ZR1 and pretty much all of the Lambos I know there are people out there willing to go balls out with what's possible instead of sitting back and thinking "that'll do".
I might be the only one thinking it but I just can't help thinking "Can't you just try a bit harder next time?"
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So basically we're going to have an overly expensive, 'slow' (relative) car that can't even light up its rear tires and just like all other Mercedes vehicles, isn't available with a transmission worth mentioning.
One can get a hellofa lot more for a hellofa lot less.
Yeah but, it's just a german Corvette with gull wing doors and 500 more pounds.
500 horse V8, torque tube, rear mounted tranny, ...all there. And the Vette comes with magnetic shocks and the Enzo's carbon brakes.
I would rather have a ZR1, and an extra $100,000 for an airplane or something. #mercedesslsamg
Looks more clown shoe than hairbrush to me. "Our best car has a really long nose" still isn't sexy talk, though last time they forced the issue by drawing a penis on the bonnet of the SLR.
Good packaging this is not... "Does it have significant flaws, most glaringly from the gearbox? Totally.
Direct simple writing this is not. Is it Wes rephrasing blunt criticism to make it sound less glaringly negative? Totally. #mercedesslsamg
@skierpage: How is this not simple and direct? It's an impressive, fast car with a few problems that, in the end, don't detract all the much from the total package. #mercedesslsamg
@Wes Siler: Direct simple writing would be:
"It is badly packaged. ... It has significant flaws, especially its gearbox."
Thanks for the good review, honest feedback, and not bad writing. You just sounded as if you were trying to soften your criticisms with some wordplay. If you gonna write high-falutin', some people gonna notice. No worries. #mercedesslsamg
"Full Disclosure: Mercedes wanted us to drive the SLS AMG so badly they flew us out to San Francisco and put us up in a fancy hotel on the ocean. Also, I got in really late so I missed dinner and helped myself to a free Snickers bar and a bottle of OJ from the minibar. I know that's not a healthy diet, but these are the sacrifices we'll make in order to bring you car reviews."
Is anybody else noticing a theme here or is it just me? #mercedesslsamg
Whoa, let's throw on the Webster brakes here. It's impossible to describe a fellow journalist as a hack, and then use the word "guesstimation" in the very next sentence. I'm going to see if we can get Bob Lutz to come teach you some manners. #mercedesslsamg
Edit: or guestimation. I, too, have no idea how to spell made-up words.
@Drew and not U: Wait, so I shouldn't review a car after driving it in Forza? Damn, there's goes my plan for not having to fly somewhere once a week anymore. #mercedesslsamg
@Wes Siler: I think you're on to something. You could use that method as a Green Marketing ploy.
"Jalopnik is going green by virtually road testing new cars in Forza! No more greenhouse gasses or excessive fuel consumption."
People will eat that shit up.
In fact maybe F1 and NASCAR could implement something similar. Just gather up all the drivers in one big LAN party and let them duke it out on the big screen. #mercedesslsamg
11/19/09
Are they going to run out of rivals before they run out of 3-letter combinations? Will they ever make a decent manual transmission? Stay tuned, for the exciting next episode of the S-class vs the Wurld!
11/18/09
If it results in something like this little happy car, then I'm all up for it.
11/18/09
the 2010 gullwing and the liitle ones..
11/18/09
Hmm, I might be a little low on blood sugar but I can't help feeling incredibly unimpressed by the SLS (and now it's little brother).
By rights any car with those performance credentials and looks should have me wanting to sell my own balls to own it. Yet here I am completely nonplussed by the thing, like a wave of "meh" just washed over me whilst looking at it.
I'm not going to blame anyone in particular but I do think that this feeling I'm getting has a lot to do with just how cynical supercars (especially Mercs) have become of late. After seeing an SLR up close (ooh check me out) and having the pleasure of driving a previous generation AMG SL55 on a disused airstrip (again WOO go me!) I can't help but feel underwhelmed. I'm sure I'm not their target audience for this thing but then surely by the fact that there probably is a clearly defined target audience for this car I feel quite sad. A supercar shouldn't have to have a target audience, it should simply leap deep into your subconscious as soon as you see it and make you want it from the word go. The fact that this car didn't do just that has me worried, mainly because it isn't the first supercar to fail in that respect (Audi R8? Bentley Conti GT? McMerc? Dare I say Carrera GT?).
That's not to say that all supercars suffer the same problem, just that more and more of them are no longer the extreme automobiles they used to be. By definition a supercar should surely be an excessive overstatement in impracticality/power/styling. An exercise in how a car can be uncompromisingly single minded about being "super" in one area or another.
Granted there are cars that I still class as supercars that don't need to scream at me (Aston DBS) but at the very least they hint that they're more than just a handbag accessory (I'm looking at you Bentley!).
As a life long gearhead I'm a bit depressed by some of it but I know there's still hope. With things like the Veyron, the (Nissan) GTR, the Corvette ZR1 and pretty much all of the Lambos I know there are people out there willing to go balls out with what's possible instead of sitting back and thinking "that'll do".
I might be the only one thinking it but I just can't help thinking "Can't you just try a bit harder next time?"
/Soapbox
*Supercar fatigue, copyright J.D 2009...
11/19/09
Supercar fatigue is usually only a risk during economic bubbles, but 500hp week can also be a factor.
11/18/09
One can get a hellofa lot more for a hellofa lot less.
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Yeah but, it's just a german Corvette with gull wing doors and 500 more pounds.
500 horse V8, torque tube, rear mounted tranny, ...all there. And the Vette comes with magnetic shocks and the Enzo's carbon brakes.
I would rather have a ZR1, and an extra $100,000 for an airplane or something. #mercedesslsamg
11/05/09
@bradyb: See the Zr1 has a nice aluminum/magnesium space frame too, carbon fiber body panels as well. #mercedesslsamg
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Good packaging this is not... "Does it have significant flaws, most glaringly from the gearbox? Totally.
Direct simple writing this is not. Is it Wes rephrasing blunt criticism to make it sound less glaringly negative? Totally. #mercedesslsamg
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"It is badly packaged. ... It has significant flaws, especially its gearbox."
Thanks for the good review, honest feedback, and not bad writing. You just sounded as if you were trying to soften your criticisms with some wordplay. If you gonna write high-falutin', some people gonna notice. No worries. #mercedesslsamg
11/04/09
Is anybody else noticing a theme here or is it just me? #mercedesslsamg
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Edit: or guestimation. I, too, have no idea how to spell made-up words.
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"Jalopnik is going green by virtually road testing new cars in Forza! No more greenhouse gasses or excessive fuel consumption."
People will eat that shit up.
In fact maybe F1 and NASCAR could implement something similar. Just gather up all the drivers in one big LAN party and let them duke it out on the big screen. #mercedesslsamg
11/04/09
It's ugly, though. Why in God's name would Mercedes make a Crossfire its halo car? #mercedesslsamg
11/04/09