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2010 Jaguar XJ: All New, No More Retro

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something_unique_and_descriptive
04/20/09

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No more Lecter-Mobile?

NOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
04/20/09

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Couldn't they have at least put the fuel filler on top of the rear cowl for old time's sake. I know the current car doesn't have it there, but come on!
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
04/20/09

@Tomsk aka Studly del Torquewrench, Esq.: I'd vote for that too. Especially if they put the gas tanks back into the rear fenders! No more having to remember which side of the car your gas cap is on. Think of the ease of mind and time savings!
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Dhillaz 2.0
04/20/09

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I don't particularly like the XJ, but it's a sad fact that it has fallen victim to bloatation.
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Deartháir II
04/20/09

@Dhillaz: Might wanna look into that a little more.
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Deartháir II
04/20/09

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Ouch. Sorry Wes. I wrote an article a few days ago wherein I said that any auto journalist who said the current XJ was outdated or retro was clearly just an idiot who had spent too much time drinking Bangle's kool-aid. Similarly, considering it bloated when it's a 7-series competitor that weighs in at 3-series weight is evident of a failure to do research.

The statements all remain true, I'm just sorry that they now apply to you, Wes. I like you too much to think such things of you.

Okay, mostly just your ass.
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Schweppes - Now with more school work
04/20/09

@Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: Your comment made me curious so here are the quoted weights for the 2009 models from Jaguar and BMW's Canadian websites:

BMW 750i: 2070kg, $105k, 400hp/450ft.lb

Jaguar XJR: 1790kg, $99k, 400hp/413ft.lb

BWW 335i: 1630kg, $49k, 300hp/300ft.lb

Not that I have driven any of them (or ever will) but that's quite a weight spread.
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BigHarv
04/20/09

@Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: Saves me from having to say the same think. What's outdated about state of the art aluminum construction? The XJ is more high tech than the A8 or Phaeton.
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Deartháir II
04/20/09

@BigHarv: Not only that, but it really, really is a nice car to drive. I only had it for a day to do a review on it, but I honestly wished I could have had it for much longer, and it was enough to make me seriously consider buying one.

@Schweppes - Now with more school work: As mentir pointed out, there are a lot of other option packages that we don't get in Canada. We only get the big-daddy versions. The point, however, is that this is a really big car that's extremely light when compared to its competitors. I'd hardly say that qualifies as "bloat".
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Schweppes - Now with more school work
04/20/09

@Pope Deartháir III the Awesometh: I agree with you about the weight compared to other cars in that class, the 7 series is almost twice the weight of my car (somewhere around 1150kg) and the 280+ kg difference between the 7 series and the Jag is significant.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
04/20/09

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Looks like Jaguar might have fallen into good hands. May all our orphans be so lucky.

The overhead shot does look promising, though I was hoping for a close up of the fuel filler door, to really get a sense of the new design.

I've got a friend with an XJR. He might be persuaded to be jaded and need this update.
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Graverobber
04/20/09

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Oh dear. This does not bode well. I do like the Spirograph® background, however.
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Deartháir II
04/20/09

@Graverobber: I'm also not feeling optimistic about this.
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Mobius
04/20/09

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If it's as big a step forward as the Xf was, then Jaguar have done another good job.

XJ-R?
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BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
04/20/09

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It´s gonna share the hood with Volvo S80.
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aSoundofSleep-less nights
04/20/09

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I actually kind of liked the XJ-S design, especially when paried with the V12.

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weatherman
04/20/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: I agree - too bad the engines in them were so unreliable.

I was very tempted to buy one of these at one point and just swap out the motor.
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aSoundofSleep-less nights
04/20/09

@weatherman:

Agreed. Of course, what did Jaguar make around that time that was reliable?
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weatherman
04/20/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: Nothing, of course. But they looked so good just sitting by the side of the road, nobody cared!

@cchannel: I think the XJ-S is an acquired taste. It certainly took some time for me to appreciate it. Sorta like the Corvette C3 for me - at first it's a little grotesque, then it sorta grows on you.

The XJ6 from almost every year is a lovely car, but my preference (aesthetically at least) is for the Series II.
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Graverobber
04/20/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: This was the last car blessed by Sir William Lyons. The story goes that once the designers had finished with the clay model, Sir William was brought in- nearly blind, and hobbled with age- and he ran his hands over the car. The designers held their breath, as it was just before Christmas, and they wanted to go home to be with their families. Lyons gave a nod, and said it would do. The designers went home and each tipped a glass in his honour. At least that's the myth.

And these cars are a bit woeful in their reliability.
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smalleyxb122
04/20/09

@Duke Sound Vtechen of Sleepenburg: I might be a bit biased when it comes to the XJS. 'Tis a wonderful feeling when I take the $500 luxo-beater out for a drive. It could really use a tune up, but I haven't had a serious mechanical failure aside from a heater hose bursting 3 miles from home.

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Six Flags Over Tomsk
04/20/09

@weatherman: Engine swaps are quite common on the XJ-S, as well as the sedans and the occasional hardtop coupe like ours.

There are plenty of people offering kits for small block Chevys, and possibly Gen III and IV GM V8s. Or, you could do what this guy and some others have done:

[jalopnik.com]
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weatherman
04/21/09

@Tomsk aka Studly del Torquewrench, Esq.: sweet jesus, I think I just shat myself.
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