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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    Why the Mazdanger but not the Ford?
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    Wait, the Hyundai Highlander?! Really?


    Anyway, there are one... two cars on that list that I'd not mind owning. Sadly, one of them is a 27-year-old pickup truck, and another is a minivan (Mazda5).


    Wouldn't turn down a Passat, either.

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    06/08/09

    @Floozy Plushbroom, not fingerin' Singo: You loose Jalopnik points for saying you would like a minivan.


    Don't you know wagons is where it is at?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/08/09

    @Dr.Danger drives a Chevrolet movie theater: On this list, the Mazda5 is the shit.


    I'd very much take a new Volvo/Merc/Subaru/damn-near-any wagon over one, but if I had to get a minivan, that would be it.

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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    The xB2 isn't a turbo. It's got the mediocre Camry/tC engine.
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    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    Entertaining analysis aside, I still can't trust the Passat on this list. Anything German is costly, even our damn '99 Jetta. And if the insurance is cheap, fixing them is expensive, unless you wrench yourself. Good luck doing that on the newer cars as VW would rather you not.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/08/09

    @evoCS-Hench-Minion at *location CLASSIFIED*: VW would rather you not do it, and would rather independent shops do it; they'd rather their dealers were responsible for the weekly goings-over as new problems crop up.
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    These rates are considered cheap? Wow. Thank god for USAA.
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    06/08/09

    @tenbeers: then again I don't have 100/300/50 coverage either.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    I thought you were going to give us a list of cars people actually buy.


    So what are my choices here- a Kia or two, a gaggle of minivans- or a Lincoln Town Car?

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    Image of carcrazy73 carcrazy73
    06/08/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: i think just about every minivan EXCEPT the GM clones is on that list...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/08/09

    @carcrazy73: And they (fortunately) crashed those pieces of shit. And then stepped away.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    Also, the Jeep surprises me. I would have thought that given the age demographic that usually buys them, along with the potential uses of a Wrangler, that there would be a lot of insurance claims on them.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/08/09

    @pauljones: It's a brick sh*thouse though.
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    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    06/08/09

    @pauljones: Around here, I usually see wranglers with alot of those yellow "party plates", which are assigned to those who have had multiple DUIs
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/08/09

    @baldy_pm: Same here in LA.

    And if you drive about two hours outside of LA and out to the deserts, it isn't unheard of to see a couple of dumbass kids racing around the desert in a Wrangler. There's also the all the major off-road trails around California, like the Rubicon Trail. I figure that's got to add up to some serious claim numbers.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    06/08/09

    @pauljones: Maybe it's a lot of absent-minded dents and scrapes that should be factory issue anyways.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    If the Passat is that cheap to insure, it may be worth a look. The current ones are nice cars.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    What's with the Honda Accord? Is this a driver demographics thing (and if so, why no Camry?)?.
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    Image of Maxx Cracker Maxx Cracker
    06/08/09

    In reply to 20 Least Expensive Cars To Insure For 2009
    Where's my PT Cruiser???
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    Image of InfinitisEnd InfinitisEnd
    06/08/09

    @Maxx Cracker:

    In the shop?
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    06/08/09

    @InfinitisEnd: Hey-Oh!
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    06/08/09

    @Maxx Cracker: Getting the outrageously expensive windshield replaced.
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    06/08/09

    @Maxx Cracker: PT Cruiser would be expensive to insure, due to the large amount of battering they get from other drivers. They say it is from a subconscious reaction from looking at the car that makes you want to murder it in the face.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/06/09

    In reply to MTU Series 4000 Engine... As In 4000 HP!
    So where do the dilithium crystals go?
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    Image of LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
    05/06/09

    In reply to MTU Series 4000 Engine... As In 4000 HP!
    Over 7000Hp from 8 cylinders and and will move that ship faster than ever...



    ...for about four and a half seconds before it melts the pistons and valves.
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    05/05/09

    In reply to MTU Series 4000 Engine... As In 4000 HP!
    I was going to say a Deuce and a half, but how much does this thing weigh? Seriously, this would make a full size open pit mine ore hauler do wheelstands. I want to hear it run through open exhausts, full throttle. Please.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/06/09

    @CptSevere: They'd pretty much have to be open exhausts. I don't think JCWhitney or AutoZone or Midas carry this model.
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    05/05/09

    In reply to MTU Series 4000 Engine... As In 4000 HP!
    Realistically: SCHOOL BUS!!! (mid-engined of course)
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    Image of bdon bdon
    05/05/09

    In reply to MTU Series 4000 Engine... As In 4000 HP!
    page editor: clicking on next page pretends to go there, then kicks back to page 1. Anyhoo, that engine is quite large. A normal v12 diesel in a rig is amazing, this engine must have some serious honda crushing power. for the comment about hondas and thier 100 hp per liter: hp is a gay number. It is for feminism. It is homosexual. It is richard simmons flambouyant! My mom for example, she is 500hp per liter. Wanna know what she thinks of hondas? ALL ENGINE POWER IS TORQUES RESULT. ok kids? now lets stop feeding the carpocalypse and use real math again....someday? how far is the flying circus called transverse going to kill u sall...
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    Image of Sean Smith Sean Smith
    05/05/09

    @bdon: Actually, Horsepower is a pretty epic win over torque. Torque is a static number, just an amount of force. Horsepower is torque over time. HP=Torque x RPM / 5250. What you end up with is a number that represents real world power, not just a static measurement.


    Oh, and HP per Liter is a totally rad measurement. A tiny honda B16 making 1500 hp is a lot cooler than an 800 inch big block rat motor making 1500 hp.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/05/09

    @Sean Smith: Half-win for you.


    A single HP number is more meaningful than torque, for sure. However, what one really cares about in a car that accelerates and decelerates is the torque curve.


    Unless you're going to run the engine at it's peak HP point all the time, you care more about how much torque is available from 1500-5000 (or wherever) RPM. That defines how a pull away from a stop would feel. (Hondas suck at this, btw).


    Additionally, HP/liter is a completely useless number. HP/lb of engine or HP/gallon/hour for how much power a motor is making for a given rate of fuel consumption is a lot more meaningful.

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