I fondly remember this car from the greatest video game ever...
...and think it looks brilliant. I can't tell any differences from the original concept. (But then again, I only remember it from getting mad air in the Amazon track and flying off the bridge.)
Why the hate? The concept was pretty slick, I still have it in the form of an RC car with a folding hardtop.
@SeanKHotay: Technically, that means "wild horse", as I don't think the language is specific enough to identify a species of horse that's nonexistent in Asia.
@bzr: You are indeed also correct, sir... ...but 野马 (Yeh=wild, ma=horse) is indeed the translation for "Mustang" in the English-Chinese dictionaries (3 of'em) we checked.
I saw this car in person earlier this year at the Fabulous Fords Forever show. I have a 1/18 scale of the original and I have to say I think he did a really good job.
It's not my cup of tea but it's certainly well done.
So I went to MazdaUSA to see how this compared to the Speed6 and found: 1. there is no 2009 Speed6 2. the mileage for this is much better than the 2009 Speed3
I like VW's and very much like Audi's, but I bought Mazda6 and think the Mazda3 and 6 are better looking than this VW, totally humble opinion.
@MarywithanM: I agree on all aspects except the Mazda grille. It bugs me.
VW and Mazda are both in high esteem in my books. VW/Audi is making just a whole series of "holy crap, WOW!" engines, while Mazda is doing that with the whole rest of the car and giving them less inspiring engines. (Although the MazdaSpeed cars absolutely deserve respect!)
@FuzzyPlushroom: Yes, I agree, but I feel that is the exception that proves the rule. That would be a great engine in so many other automakers' lineups, but with VW, it's rubbish.
I was thinking more of the RS6's twin-turbo V10, but as a 20V de-turboed Lysholm 1.8 is my next engine buildup over the next few years, I am forced to agree with you.
Gorgeous on the outside, but I would fear that the rear headroom must be severely compromised (like with the Benz CLS and the W211 rebody of the E-Class).
@Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing: Personally, I wonder if it would be. Look at the beltline. It's designed to deceive the eye into thinking it's a straight line, when it actually swoops upwards at quite an angle, making it look a lot lower than it actually is. I'm just over 6'1", and I sat in the back of the XF with tons of headroom to spare.
@Deartháir: I've got to admit, the proof of the pudding is in the eating...! I haven't sat in the VW CC or the MBZ CLS, and I have a friend who bought the newer W211 E-Class (black-on-black like my W210), and SHE commented about the rear headroom in her car. She's a petite woman, so it can't have been first-hand experience (besides, who rides around in the back seat of their own car...?)
@Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing: i would imagine so... compromised headroom isn't good.... unless there is a wagon option... compromised headroom can make people buy a wagon... worked for my parents!
300c's vertical glass caused my 6'2" brother (and the next one down... who was 5'11" at the time) to hit his head... so they bought a magnum... more or less exactly the same car.. but a lot more room in back...
granted... my dad has always been a wagon man... i grew up with GM wagons (olds, pontiac, chevy, buick-- i think we had them all..)... and then graduated to the suburban a.k.a. 'the fat-man's station-wagon'... but with a family of 7.. and early 90's wagon offerings not being so great... who can blame him..
You know, it's no secret I'm a VW/Audi fan. I like their designs, and even though I'm not completely nuts about the Gen V Jetta/Rabbit, they're still better-looking than a lot of other cars on the market.
But really, why put this engine in the Passat CC? It's a big car, and with all that weight, it's not going to show off the potential of the engine as well as it could. As it sits, it ends up only slightly better than the G8 GT. Driving it carefully on the highway, and letting the fuel management system work as much as possible, I got around 7L/100km, according to the on-board computer. That's 33 mpg, from a bigger car with more peak horsepower.
Now, if VW were to take this engine, and put it in, say, a two-door GTI, preferably with the R32 all-wheel-drive system...
good idea: i would appreciate getting 33mpg most of the time but having 300hp on call if i wanted it. i'm hoping changing modes is just a press of a button? anything to prevent this system from working with a proper manual?
@will: if the phrase 'german engineering' really means anything... i think it'll take 3 different sized proper (metric) wrenches, at least 2 types of screwdrivers (at least three, if including the drink), and well.. i know i've got that service manual somewhere around here...... damn..
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...and think it looks brilliant. I can't tell any differences from the original concept. (But then again, I only remember it from getting mad air in the Amazon track and flying off the bridge.)
Why the hate? The concept was pretty slick, I still have it in the form of an RC car with a folding hardtop.
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Never? Oh!
That's OK then.
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Perhaps I'd rather not know.
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I can find out what it is in Hindi too if you want.
Multi-national companies are fun!
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Not nitpicking, but just sayin'.
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...but 野马 (Yeh=wild, ma=horse) is indeed the translation for "Mustang" in the English-Chinese dictionaries (3 of'em) we checked.
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It's not my cup of tea but it's certainly well done.
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Tire squeal, that is.
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1. there is no 2009 Speed6
2. the mileage for this is much better than the 2009 Speed3
I like VW's and very much like Audi's, but I bought Mazda6 and think the Mazda3 and 6 are better looking than this VW, totally humble opinion.
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VW and Mazda are both in high esteem in my books. VW/Audi is making just a whole series of "holy crap, WOW!" engines, while Mazda is doing that with the whole rest of the car and giving them less inspiring engines. (Although the MazdaSpeed cars absolutely deserve respect!)
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The 2.0T (and the 1.8T that preceded it) can sleep in my garage anytime, though.
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I was thinking more of the RS6's twin-turbo V10, but as a 20V de-turboed Lysholm 1.8 is my next engine buildup over the next few years, I am forced to agree with you.
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At 6'6", I value headroom highly (pun intended).
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Well, not moving under its own power.
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"..who rides around in the back seat of their own car...?"
What? You not down with JFK, and Haile Selassie? Pfftt..
"Give me rear seat Lincoln slab time, or give me death!"
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"...who rides around in the back seat of their own car...?"
Oh please, a true Jalop does NOT have a chauffeur on the payroll... That would be like Donald Trump having a financial advisor... oh, wait...
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300c's vertical glass caused my 6'2" brother (and the next one down... who was 5'11" at the time) to hit his head... so they bought a magnum... more or less exactly the same car.. but a lot more room in back...
granted... my dad has always been a wagon man... i grew up with GM wagons (olds, pontiac, chevy, buick-- i think we had them all..)... and then graduated to the suburban a.k.a. 'the fat-man's station-wagon'... but with a family of 7.. and early 90's wagon offerings not being so great... who can blame him..
(*wagon, wagon, wagon*)
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But really, why put this engine in the Passat CC? It's a big car, and with all that weight, it's not going to show off the potential of the engine as well as it could. As it sits, it ends up only slightly better than the G8 GT. Driving it carefully on the highway, and letting the fuel management system work as much as possible, I got around 7L/100km, according to the on-board computer. That's 33 mpg, from a bigger car with more peak horsepower.
Now, if VW were to take this engine, and put it in, say, a two-door GTI, preferably with the R32 all-wheel-drive system...
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don't get me wrong... love VAG (and VW too)