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    Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid

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    Image of antoine_cadillac antoine_cadillac
    08/21/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    French Road - Detroit.... a runway on the left and a cemetery if you can't stop at the end.

    [maps.google.com]
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid

    How about the beach?
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    08/20/09


    @Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable:
    Hmm.. maybe not.
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    Image of The Red Comet The Red Comet
    08/20/09

    @Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable: You will get yourself and others killed.
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    08/21/09

    @The Red Comet: Also you'll magically change make, model and color of your car?
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    08/21/09

    @armyofchuckness: Smartass.. the Caddy in that scene didn't flip, whaddaya want from me?

    (These are stills from McQ, BTW- I wanted to post pics of the '69 Belvedere sedan that John Wayne drives in this scene, actually, but couldn't find any.)
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    08/21/09

    @Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable: In all seriousness though, that was incredibly awesome, and you got my heart.
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    Image of Froggmann Froggmann
    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    I - 15 Between Corona and Temecula, CA. Used to be able to get away with it between Corona and Ontario back when there used to be dairy farms out there but now there is too much traffic. Did between 130-140 MPH in my old 88 Cougar XR-7 out there once "racing" MB 430.

    My other speed opportunities are usually between 12:30-1:45 ish in the morning. Got my 84 Crew cab dually to about 130 MPH back when I was a teenager, and somewhat recently bounced 150 in my 02 Maxima.
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    08/20/09

    @Froggmann - Now with working windows!: I grew up in Ontario. I remember not too many years ago you could go between Ontario and Corona a hundred times and not ever see a cop. It was my preferred route to go see my Grandma in Riverside, even though taking the 60 to Van Buren was technically shorter.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Public highways are typically not a good choice, but there are some in central Nevada which are so flat and so straight, that, with two sets of PIAA lights on my Honda ST1100 (959's and 1200's), 120 MPH, at night, wasn't fast enough because I was still bored out of my freakin' mind by the complete lack of anything.

    Bike got 23 MPG on that trip...I wonder why...

    Gotta love aftermarket lights which allow you to have your own portable sun. Even better is a volt/amp meter so you know how long you can run them before backing off to 65 MPH for 12 minutes to charge the battery back up.

    High & low beam running simultaneously on both headlight bulbs, plus another 220W of PIAA's will drag a 28A alternator down in a hurry. But it's incredible while it lasts.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    I was looking for some pointers here. But you're just one big buzzkill.

    Go to China Lake, CA. Drive through fence. Pedal to the metal. Take aggressive, evasive maneuvers. Don't let up. Hope that Hellfire missile misses you. remember to tell us all about it.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Remember the article about ghost developments a couple of days ago? If you're lucky to have one of these within reasonable distance, these can be ideal for high-speed hoonage if you follow a few precautions:

    1. Check out your course at reasonable speeds first. You don't want to be surprised by dumped appliances, fallen trees, earth berms, or missing sections of road.

    2. Make sure you have sufficient sight lines. You might not be the only zoomer out there.

    3. See how carefully the area is patrolled. Cops are not oblivious to the attractions of areas like these.

    4. Don't do your hooning within sight of passing traffic or indications of inhabited civilization. People do have phones.
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    Image of Velocitré Velocitré
    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    I did #11 at a dry lake somewhere northwest of Pioche, NV, and allow to make some observations:
    - On a Honda CB 450 you can do big, lazy powerslides forever
    - Forever is less than 25 minutes
    - The seemingly perfect surface extends for miles
    - Seemingly is a very deceptive word
    - When encountered at 105 MPH, a small piece of Volkswagen wheel protruding from the salt can remove a motocross boot
    - Anyone can learn to do the splits in a very short period of time without training or conditioning
    - Accomplishing the above gymnastic feat removes walking from your skills matrix
    - The speed at which the salt will burn through two pairs of Levi's is less than 105 MPH
    - Kick starting a CB 450 when you can't walk is somewhat difficult
    - Driving a CB 450 with no handlebars and bent forks will reintroduce you to the salt
    - It takes about 15 minutes for your friends to stop laughing long enough to render assistance

    Hope this helps
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Judging from the rising costs of healthcare, we do seem to have a population glut here in the states...performing speed week in these unauthorized areas could be a dignified and awesome way of thinning the herd! Better than death panels, at least.
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    08/20/09

    @bmoreDLJ: The only problem is with modern, safe, cars most would injure rather than kill themselves which would cost more in healthcare...
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    "By and large, driving flat out anywhere else is just a good way to get yourself and others killed."

    Would it make ya feel any better if they were pushed outa windows?

    /Archie Bunker response.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Flat out is dangerous on the highway in many cars, but if you are in a mid 90's Saturn not flat out is dangerous.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    You will get yourself and others killed.
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    Image of cgarison cgarison
    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Out of 10 venues listed, I have hooned at five of the suggested places.

    Notes from my experiences.

    Abandoned factories may have support columns that do not interact well with cars.

    Abandoned malls may have security guards looking for idiots trying to kill them selves in cars.

    Country Roads take turns for no reason at all (except for may be the dozer operator was following the engineer as he went away from the construction to take a dump.) May eventually be converted to an abandoned road.

    The road surface of abandoned dragstrips may not be suitable for high speed racing if you have a car capable of such. Also, beware of damage to the facility caused by others that have hooned recklessly before you.

    Abandoned roads are about like abandoned drgstrips. The difference was that they were not built for either safety or high rates of speed which is why they were abandoned in the first place. Also, be aware that people abandon things on abandoned roads like heavy equipment, burned out shells of former cars and other crap that does not interact well with your car at high rates of speed.
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    Image of Electro Gyrocator Electro Gyrocator
    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    You guys forgot #12 - Racetrack

    Pros: Illusion of a controlled environment. Track is paved, sometimes in good condition depending on how old. Lots of people to hang out and talk with. You can go around and around many times.

    Cons: Tech inspectors tend to let that one "little thing" wrong with your car slide just this once. 50 other people driving POS cars who suck at driving as bad you. 50 other testosterone-ridden people all competing for the first spot, riding inches off each others bumpers. Many things can still go horribly wrong. You will get yourself and others killed.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    Hooning is good. Hooning at the wrong place and/or wrong time is bad.

    Some right places:
    1. A race track i.e. Sebring. Controlled environment, long straights. However, they're usually sticklers for safety gear. Pfft.

    2. Abandoned airstrip used for racing i.e. Alameda. OK, maybe not exactly "used for racing", but if you get hired by Mythbusters you could probably do some high speed runs between takes.

    3. The Autobahn. Sure, you'll have to ship your car to Deutchland, but then you can go flat out on a highway legally! [in certain places, and assuming traffic is not bad, and only for a short period until you hit the next speed zone...]

    4. On the computer. This is where I do most of my high speed driving. Pro's: Nobody dies. Con's: The vibration of the PS2 controller just isn't the same as the roar of the engine, the rush of the wind, the screeching of tires, and the crunching of metal.
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    Image of Thrashy, perpetual Minardi Thrashy, perpetual Minardi
    08/20/09

    @engineerd: Alameda was actually going to host a ProSolo (fast autocross on mirrored courses with a drag-race start) this year, but for some reason or other the event had to be canceled. El Toro is another abandoned airbase that actually did host a Solo event, and the National event is going to be held on an unused portion of apron at a live airport. In point of fact, a lot of these places (mall lots, air bases, country roads) are home to legal, sanctioned events on a regular basis. Not that it justifies using them without a contract or safety personnel on hand, but still, they're not automatically deathtraps.
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    08/20/09

    @engineerd: A track day is the only really responsible way to hoon a car, but it won't let you test out the top end.

    Will you buy a PS3 for GT5? Haha, who am I kidding, it's never coming out.
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    08/22/09

    @jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: My friend, who owns a 1983 GTI, will disagree with you. I'm pretty sure he was topped out except during a few turns at PIR ;)
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Bonneville-It-Yourself: Ten High Speed Venues For The Frugal And Stupid
    You should only use #5 if you're riding a motorcycle with an annoying kid who may or may not be a mankind's last chance to get rid of our machine overlords and a liquid metal killing machine, whose only job is to terminate said annoying kid, chasing you.
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    Image of John Krewson John Krewson
    08/20/09

    @BloggyMcBlogBlog: I've been saying the same thing for years.
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    08/20/09

    @BloggyMcBlogBlog: #5 is also acceptable if you're after those Goddamn dipshit Rodriguez gypsy dildo punks, or trying to find the lair of the mutant atomic ants.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/20/09

    @scroggs: Or if you are stealing back the gold you stole in Italy and are being chased by motorcycle dudes in your Mini with it's uprated springs and engines that magically take jumps without a problem even though you're carrying an extra 1000 lb. in the back.
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    08/21/09

    @engineerd: I'm sorry. That's is not acceptable. Never was. Never will be. Frankly, someone SHOULD have been killed for that particular offense.
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