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10/30/09
I actually expected Lutz's margin of victory to be bigger than it was. And I also have faith that had Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, and Jaguar not been been a bunch of pansies, you would have had the skill to take the old man down.
It's the Jaguar one that killed me, though. Like Ray, I'll give Stuart respect for standing up and taking the heat from us for his decision, but I disagree with the points that he made. He seemed to think that this match up was growing increasingly pointless each day, and he couldn't have been more wrong.
This was far more than just a GM PR flick or even a just a some chicken shit blog trying to take on GM. Actually, it was both of those things, but far more than the sum of the two. This sort of thing is exactly what we've been missing all these years: Automotive companies getting off their asses and proving that they not only want your business, but that they deserve your business, and having a whole lot of fun doing it.
Does anyone remember the days when automotive manufacturers competed for sales with real, actual, honest-to-god cars? Does anyone remember 1964, when the GTO came out? Does anyone remember the responses Pontiac got in the form of the Charger, the hopped-up Fairlanes, and the Chevelle (Pontiac's corporate cousin, no less!)? Or how about the original Shelby GT350, promptly one-upped by the Z28, which got one-upped again by the Boss 302 , followed quickly by the Challenger T/A and the AAR Cuda?
I may not have been alive in those days, but I sure as hell remember the stories of the glorious fun they had not only trying to get business, but show that they deserved that business. They involved the public in the automotive world, and are the ones responsible for taking the cult of cars from a bunch of red-neck guys across the country with their Flathead Fords to everyone who wanted to partake in the fun. Back then, those companies created car culture as we know it today, in one of the most brilliantly successful long-term marketing moves ever.
Now we're reduced to billboard bitch-slap fights between bitchy automakers and armchair general articles from a bunch of fat, old, and lazy magazine journalists. Instead of automakers putting their asses on the line in the street to prove their reputations, they sit on their snooty asses (I'm looking at you, Bruce) and compare spec sheets while making snide comments into their glasses of white wine.
Screw them. What we got today was a breath of fresh air, and I loved the concept from start to finish. It didn't matter what cars were used or who won. What mattered is that it happened. So many people here have gotten lost and upset about stupid little side-arguments over whether or not the CTS-V was a ringer, whether or not Wes can drive, whether or not Ray was just pandering to GM, etc. And all of them missed the point: it didn't matter. It jsut mattered that it was a brief revival of the very spirit that got us all into cars in the first place, and created automotive culture as we know it today.
Ray: Thank you for pushing so hard to make this happen. I know that took a fair deal of effort, and it is appreciated.
Maximum Bob: You are so nick-named for a reason. That was cool, and you have my respect for having the balls to do that.
Wes: You got robbed. I'm sorry, but it's true. You certainly did kick some ass, though, and you got another chance to drive the CTS-V.
Mercedes-Benz, Audi, BMW, and Jaguar: Enjoy your wine. But when your precious spec sheets get tire chunks all over them after your owners find out that their machines aren't all that ultimate after all, take your whine and shove it where the sun don't shine. You know how to play the game, and you couldn't be bothered. #jalopnikvsgm
10/30/09
Nah, I feel bad for you, dude.
You tried, and that's what's important.
Can you honestly expect to beat the mangod that is Bob Lutz? #jalopnikvsgm
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Yeah, I feel SO bad I don't have a digital toy to call out people with. Why, back in my day, you had to tap them on the shoulder in person.
Now get off my digital lawn, ya geeks. #jalopnikvsgm
10/29/09
Please tell me he works for some irrelevant monthly "print" publication, like "The Detroit News."
I wonder what their subscription base is? #jalopnikvsgm
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Not that they are good. #jalopnikvsgm
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I think it was a great idea. Cadillac should've stuck with just 1 ringer though to prove their point about the car. So many really makes em look bad. #jalopnikvsgm
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I'd like to see what sort of a reference time you could lay down in a CTS-V. GM can brag all it wants about the Caddy - just imagine how much better this is than what they had ten years ago. No, this throwdown was really about some smack talking oldster, hoping to mix it up one last time before he transitions into the full Metamucil diet. #jalopnikvsgm
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Way to keep it civil, folks!
Oh, dang - well, it's too late for me. #jalopnikvsgm
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