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    Image of LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    Dade County now have step by step instructions on how to avoid death by asphyxiation by informing their constituents that regular flexing their diaphragm muscle in the thorax will encourage air into their lungs and out again.

    But unfortunately Dade county constituents are lost on terms such as; asphyxiation, diaphragm, thorax and air. Therefore Dade county will now consider scrapping the ban on text messaging whilst driving. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    Texting is the contemporary communication method which the modern and hip bus driver uses to interact with his juvenile passengers. If he can’t text, how will he ask that hot thirteen year old dressed like a hooker out for a date, or tell that pimply kid in row two to sit down and shut the hell up. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving

    Dude...you're harshin' my textin' buzz. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Wunno Sev Wunno Sev
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    To be fair, texting is a pretty recent phenomenon. Measures like these aren't officially put into place until there's a reason for them.

    That said, there should have at least been some internal policy banning texting-while-driving. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of PetroSapien PetroSapien
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    Wow... times sure have changed since I was a kid. Texting school-bus drivers never would have been a problem back then. Few of them were literate. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @PetroSapien: I never noticed that literacy and texting had any kind of relationship whatsoever. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est:

    OMG! U Cant say dat! LOL WatEVR! #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    I'm a fairly die-hard libertarian, and as such, I don't think that there should be a law against texting while driving.

    Sufficient laws already exist. If a person causes a crash, I don't care if it was because they were texting, drunk, getting a "trouser-friendly kiss", or taking a nap. Regardless of why the driver was unable to control the vehicle, the fact is that the driver was unable to control the vehicle.

    Eating a bowl of soup while driving is easily as distracting as texting, but do we need a law specifically banning eating soup while driving? If you are texting, eating soup, or reaching into the backseat to smack your unruly kids, and you crash, you were distracted and not doing what you should have been. I don't care why you crashed, you shall be punished for the effect; not the cause.

    I would like to say that a bus driver should be "banned" from texting, because it places others at risk, but placing others at undue risk should be the infraction, and not a specific cause of the risk. The bus driver is there to drive, and should be doing just that.

    BTW, I'm not condoning texting while driving, nor driving drunk. I'm only condemning the superfluous legislation. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Adam Spano Adam Spano
    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122:
    The ban of texting is preventative.

    We need laws in place that ban distracted driving. Texting, cell phones... READING A FUCKING NOVEL WHILE DRIVING (saw this one while on my motorcycle, wanted to murder the lady).

    Seriously. Yes, there are laws for if/when you crash... if you rode a motorcycle, you'd want preventative laws in place too, because if/when you crash, you may kill someone. Lets not let it get that far... k? #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122: I understand what you're saying, but there is more. When a texting driver kills my kid the driver clearly is to blame, and should be held accountable. But whatever the punishment he receives, my kid is still dead. I'd like to prevent that.

    @ Adam Spano
    hitting the 'share' button once is enough. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122: In principle I agree with you, but in practice, on my 150 mile a day commute, it's so painfully obvious that lengthy cell yakking and texting are detectable from a distance when driving--you can tell exactly who is doing which. And, frankly, people will not understand that this is at least as bad for your driving as being drunk. And being drunk and/or texting is far different than getting in a wreck because you were taking a sip of coffee. The levels of concentration/effort and time involved are different.
    And if people are too stupid to realize their texting and lengthy phone chats--you know the kind, when you pass them they are all settled down in the seat, oblivious--then by all means, have a law with staggeringly stiff penalties, especially for texting, that generally requires much more eye attention, certainly to read them.
    Certain types of inattention--like drunk driving--do deserve their own laws. This doesn't mean you have separate laws for every type of distraction/impairment--only for egregious ones. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122: sooooo... repeal drunk driving laws? #textingwhiledriving
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    smalleyxb122 promoted this comment Unregular was starred Unregular was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/17/09

    @Novaload: You say that the cell user or texter is noticeable from a distance, and from what I've seen, I concur, but do we really need to outlaw that behavior when they could easily just get a ticket for weaving, speeding, going too slowly, etc. What you see on the road that tells you from a distance that the driver is probably on a cell phone is, in itself a citeable offense. If they can't keep it between the lines, I don't really care why. Just get them off of the road.

    "I was on the phone" or "I was texting" should be neither an extenuating, nor a mitigating circumstance in the event of a crash. Subsequent punishment should be no different than if the driver intentionally steered into that parked car/pedestrian/telephone pole. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @Unregular: At the risk of being taken as a troll, yes.

    As I just wrote to Novaload regarding texting, I don't care why the driver can't stay between the lines. Only that they can't stay between the lines.

    "I was drunk" is not an excuse to minimize your actions, nor should it be used exacerbate the consequence.

    Everything done behind the wheel whether drunk or sober is intentional; If you drive your car into the broad side of your neighbor's barn, you're liable for the damages, whether drunk, sober, napping, or just an octogenarian who can't tell the brake from the gas. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @Novaload: Agreed.

    There are a near-infinite number of ways to be 'distracted' while driving, laws can't be written for all of them.

    This isn't to say lawmakers aren't going to try...and they'll be backed up by mass media doing all they can to scare people/keep ratings up.

    When cars first appeared, and the tech existed, radios were not allowed because they were distracting. They still are, in many ways...some of the multi-hundred watt boom cars distract me to the point of looking for weaponry...even if it's just a rock.

    However, technology obviously surpassed the human ability to multi-task some time ago. At least for a huge percentage of the populous.

    It really, really hacks me off to see someone obviously oblivious to the real world around them while they have a piece of electronics in their hand(s).

    I think some of this stems from what you've done in life. I used to drive both an airport shuttle and tour bus. Using a two-way is important, yet never, ever, overrides the real world. If you don't answer, they'll live for three seconds.

    Those using telephones don't seem to understand this. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122: I tend to agree with you, but I would like to see the cause of the infraction play into the severity of sentencing. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/17/09

    @Ethyleneglycoholic’s Fearless Flying Frog Brigade: That's fair. The ideal would have a cold set standard of punishment based solely on the effect, but even I would lobby for sympathetic leniency to the "oops" versus the drunk.

    There shouldn't be a harsher penalty for the drunk; there should instead be a more lenient penalty for the driver who made an honest mistake.

    I know that sounds contradictory, but if the drunk's penalty is equivalent to intentional causation, that is the maximum. That is the standard. You can only go down from there. And only if the circumstances can garner sympathy from a judge and/or jury. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/17/09

    @smalleyxb122: This is true but my point is in part that the people who are doing this will say, but it's not against the law! Or it will become an issue only after the accident. It's one thing if a cop sees me bobble around a little; quite another if he seems me texting--much easier for him to pull me over and have something to stick. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @Novaload: Or, you know they could just enforce the laws that we already have. Distraction = distraction. If they would start enforcing laws, that would in effect be a preventative measure. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @baldy_pm: True, and I'm not arguing against that. But I NEVER see cops on a major interstate and city that is part of my commute except radar for speeders and tend to accidents. I'm sure certain pinheads won't give up texting while driving no matter what, but the UK has had some really good deterrent ads. Hell, I think texting should be banned almost everywhere or severely limited. We had a student worker who texted constantly--stuff a few envelopes, pause to text. Who is it at the other end of this inane messages? Can't people just think inside their heads without tweeting and texting it to other idiots?
    "OMG, just did 3 more envelopes! H8 this job!"
    So that's the tragic part: WTF pathetic lives do these compulsive texters have? #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving

    Hey Brt dood. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    Thanks, Florida.

    Sadly, most people everywhere are too stupid to realize that not-driving while driving is A BAD IDEA. If the average person was halfway smart, there would be no need for automatic transmissions or bans on distracted driving.

    School buses need to go back to manual crashboxes. That'll weed out the poor drivers. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Buickboy92 Buickboy92
    11/17/09

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: We still use manuals in the school buses where I live. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of FordTuffMcgruff FordTuffMcgruff
    11/17/09

    @Buickboy92: I grew up in a town of less than 3000 people. We had 70's model buses with manuals and gasoline engines. I'm pretty sure they still run a few of them around there as backups. #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/17/09

    @FordTuffMcgruff: The town I grew up in had ~30000 people in the mid and late 80s, when I was in elementary school, and was still running old gasoline/manual International Loadstars, too.

    [en.wikipedia.org] #textingwhiledriving
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    Call me radical, but I think they should be banned from driving buses, too. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    In other news; there are old people in Florida. #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Miami-Dade School Bus Drivers May Be Banned From Texting While Driving
    soon they won't be allowed to get blind drunk while driving, either! #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09


    @Unregular: #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @tempesjo: right!

    THE PUSSIFICATION OF AMERICA CONTINUES UNABATED!!!!

    is that the correct use of "unabated"? #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @Unregular: It doesn't matter if it's the correct use. If you put it in all caps, it means whatever you want it to mean, and nobody can tell you otherwise! #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

    @tempesjo: SING IT, SISTER! #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09

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    say hlo 2 my ltl frnd! #textingwhiledriving
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    11/17/09


    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978: #textingwhiledriving
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    09/14/09

    In reply to Ten Cars To Drive Across The U.S.A.
    No great white shark? Dr. Thompson just turned over.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    08/20/09

    In reply to Ten Cars To Drive Across The U.S.A.
    Next month my girlfriend and I will be taking a 2 week, 6000 mile road trip from San Diego to Chicago and back, starting in the north (going to Yellowstone, Glacier NP, etc) and then back via Route 66.

    As much as the romance of taking my RWD V8 American muscle car on the trip is appealing, the utility and better gas mileage of my g/f's Toyota Highlander Hybrid is hard to deny.

    It gets 25 mpg no matter how you drive it, will hold all our camping gear (and an air mattress if necessary), and has ground clearance to get to some of the more remote places we plan to visit. The bitchin' Pioneer stereo/GPS is nice to have too.
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    08/20/09

    In reply to Ten Cars To Drive Across The U.S.A.
    I'm tellin' ya. As someone who has been to the 49 NA states and ten Canadian provinces by wheel in the last five years, the only way to do it is in a six-wheel diesel-pusher motorhome.

    Nothing like driving your own apartment, and honestly, it's not like driving an apartment, either. It's very, very similar to driving a very long & wide version of a 1985 Fleetwood RWD with the 4.1L. Slow, Pole Position-esque steering & brake feel, but you have ABS, a diesel which returns double-digit MPG, 90 gallons of fuel, an in-motion satellite dish, microwave, fridge with an icemaker...camping, it's not.
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