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    Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    And I thought I was bad going 15k a few times in my truck's 320,000 miles of life! (Currently working on 10k, but it needs oil every 3k, so I guess that's like an oil change...)
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @Jim-Bob: Yeah, just do the filter at regular intervals and let it change its oil most of the time.


    1.75 light-seconds, you'd expect it to leak some oil.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    Why oh why couldn't it be an Equinox with the anemic Chinese 3.4?
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    This reminds me of when I was working at a Jiffy-Lube. This asshole guy with a fleet Ford Explorer comes in with 26k on the clock for the car's first oil change. There was no excuse not to do it since it's fucking PAID FOR by the fleet, yet... no service till 26k. Just because the driver said "he'd been busy".


    I wanted to fucking bludgeon the guy to death.


    This kind of over-the-top abuse and negligence is tantamount to beating your dog in my book.

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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    05/01/09

    @Plecostomus will never win COTD... but has a: Surprisingly few people even care about whether or not their car is maintained properly, even if they don't do it themselves. This is why everyone has bald tires, uselessly worn wipers, lights out, and the original oil at 30k.


    As someone else pointed out here recently, a lot of people equate car washes with car maintenance. I, for one, haven't washed my car in 6 months, but I actually do mechanical maintenance BEFORE I end up stranded. Go figure.

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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    *shakes Magic 8 Ball*


    "Outlook not so good."

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @LTDScott's work is getting in the way of Jaloptime: ZING!
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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    That's horrible. Had it been properly maintained, this Saturn might have lived to hit 31,000 miles.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @boosted-lego-wagon -> now boosted to 350hp: Troll!! :)
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    Image of DoogieFullHouser DoogieFullHouser
    05/01/09

    @boosted-lego-wagon -> now boosted to 350hp: My first car was a Saturn, I learned the hard way that Saturns (or most motors) can lose oil pressure when lateral g's slosh the dino juice around.


    So my 16 year old butt was driving around at high RPM with no oil pressure. Replacing that motor learned me good, always buy dry sump lube systems. Or if necessary don't drive like a hoon.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @DoogieFullHouser:


    That's the beauty of the old Saturns (SL, SC, SW, L-series, Ion). They are completely anti-hoon driving. They just can't do it. And if you try, you will likely kill yourself and the car due to their sloppy suspension set up.

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    Image of WheatKing WheatKing
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    If that was a tractor or an antique.. you'd flush it out with some diesel / kerosene.. throw a new filter on it.. dump some cheap oil into it and it'd be fine.


    These kids and their new fangled engines.. See the problem is that it's one of them chinese engines. if they put a proper american iron block engine in it they wouldn't have had this problem... probably crap chinese oil too.. made of lead and ground up children.. blah blah blah blah..

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    A girl I used to work with had a '90 Lexus LS (you know, the Camry with leather and gold badging).


    She bought it with 100k on the clock and ran it up to about 250k in 8-10 years.


    Never changed the oil. She said she just added more when it was low. So apart from the filter, she was sort of changing the oil on a continuous basis. I'm sure the lack of filter change wasn't helping with the consumption. But hey, it ran.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/01/09

    @Ash78: ES = Camry. LS = RWD Something or other.
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    Image of segfault segfault
    05/01/09

    @Ash78:


    The ES is the Camry with leather and gold badging. The LS is the V8 powered S-class fighter. The original LS is widely reported to be "overbuilt."

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @segfault: There is no such thing as "overbuilt".
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    05/01/09

    @Mad_Science: @segfault: Right on, guys, brain fart on my end.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @Ash78: The first-gen ES (250, if it was a six, not sure if they all were) were literally Camrys with fancy badges. (Based on the Vista, which was - yes - just a Camry with new taillights/grille/etc. And available as a hardtop sedan! Cool!) The second-gen were actually slightly different, now Windom-based (is "Windom" like "Starion"?) and far more attractive than the contemporary Camry. Basically: Vibe:Matrix::ES300:Camry.
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    Looks familiar, I spent last Saturday pulling center-bolt valve covers off Vortec Chevy Small blocks at the Pull-a-part yard. Lots o sludge.


    I had a friend that used to work for Saab at their call center for the 1-800 number. He would occaionally get calls about warranty problems for people that went 20-40k miles with NO oil changes.

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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    05/01/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: With a B205/B235 engine that would be playing with very hot, sludgy fire.
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    Image of sean98125 sean98125
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    I thought Saturns used the redneck oil change method - just put a new quart of oil in every other time you buy gas.
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    Image of Ursus Maritimus Ursus Maritimus
    05/01/09

    @sean98125: That's how my 1995 SL2 works. I actually change the oil in it frequently, though - trying to flush out the SAE 30 some jackass put in the used motor I acquired.
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    Image of dopplerd dopplerd
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    Interesting how all of the cars in the Saturn service bay are 2008 or newer. Maybe Saturn going away ain't so bad.
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    05/01/09

    @dopplerd:


    Yeah, I'm sure that Astra in there WITH THE WINDOW STICKER is because of a major breakdown, not just prep or anything.

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    Image of ssurfer321 ssurfer321
    05/01/09

    @rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: Prepping an Astra would imply that somebody BOUGHT an Astra. There is a higher likelihood it is in due to catastrophic failure.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    05/01/09

    @rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: C'mon dude, Toyotas totally don't even need prep, they're just so good.


    But as a fun side project, I'd like to go tour local Honda and Toyota dealers, count how many '08s are in the shop.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @ssurfer321: People don't buy Astras because they don't know that Astras exist. If they knew about 'em, they'd be selling like Foci.
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    Image of pres pres
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    I'm suddenly in the mood for pudding.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    Service Captain's Log, Stardate -314328.76: Just passed by Saturn repeatedly and nobody noticed.


    These are the voyages of the Failboat Enterprise, its continuing mission to explore a strange new service intervals, to be the sole renter to the under-25 crowd, to boldly fail where no rental company has failed before. Except maybe Fox.

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    Image of MplsCarPunk MplsCarPunk
    05/01/09

    @Ash78: Good one. Though I gotta say, Enterprise has a counter in my Audi dealer. Nice to take an A6 in, spend $2k on repairs and get the chance to rent a fine Dodge Caliber for $45/day.


    Makes me want to engage all phaser banks!

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    05/01/09

    @MplsCarPunk: Enterprise has a counter in my Audi dealer


    Doesn't surprise me one bit. Every couple years when I have to take the vee-dubs in for pro service, my indy doesn't offer that. But he used to give me a ride to work when I worked closer to his shop. We've been fortunate, knock on wood trim (two Audi-derived B5 2.8 models with all the options, half of which work!)

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    Image of domino domino
    05/01/09

    @MplsCarPunk: "Enterprise has a counter in my Audi dealer."


    i have nightmares like that.

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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    05/01/09

    @MplsCarPunk: Same story here: when my one month old V70R was rear ended (watch out for old dually pickup trucks when driving a car with great brakes), the lady from Enterprise told me she had a "sporty" car for me. It was a, wait for it, base Dodge Charger! I'm sorry lady, but my Geo Metro was sportier than that POS.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    05/01/09

    @MplsCarPunk: Wow, that's harsh. I am impressed with the Saab dealer. Pricey, but last major service they loaned me new a SportCombi Aero for two days, no charge. Car's way out of warranty, too.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    Too soon. That oil had almost completed the magical transformation into yummy brownies.


    I guess this means that, just to be safe, I'd better change my oil every 25,000 miles.

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    Image of FormerlyPreferredCustomer FormerlyPreferredCustomer
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    This never would have happened to a Toyota. The frame would have rusted out LONG before the engine blew.
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    Image of pres pres
    05/01/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer:


    This is true.

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    05/01/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer: Heart-clicky for that. A very green, 13mpg heart click.


    @Matt Britt: You're new here, but our refusal to bow at the altar of Toyota kinda makes us sarcastic bastards.

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    Image of Matt Britt Matt Britt
    05/01/09

    @Maymar bans bare chassis hoonage:

    Butbutbut omg Hilux!!
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    05/01/09

    @Matt Britt: Hey, we're not immune to the cheerful "Oh, what a feeling" jump!
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    Image of Corvette_Thunder_Wheres my trophy for participating in Jalopnik? Corvette_Thunder_Wheres my trophy for participating in Jalopnik?
    05/01/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer: Blashpehmy! Once Toyota takes over America the company will cure cancer, make 100MPG Cars that run on sugar, save us from the decepticons, clone Megan Fox and make Steve Jobs head emperor of the car universe.
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    Image of FormerlyPreferredCustomer FormerlyPreferredCustomer
    05/01/09

    @Corvette_Thunder: And when that happens, I, for one, will welcome our muted silver with grey leather overlords.
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    Image of pres pres
    05/01/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer:


    I'm speechless. Very nice.

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    Image of Unevolved has three moving parts. Unevolved has three moving parts.
    05/01/09

    In reply to Saturn Rental Car Never Gets Oil Change, Engine Carnage Ensues After 30,000 Miles
    I wonder how that smelled.


    Is that an odd thing to wonder?

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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    05/01/09

    @Unevolved- Recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists.: I don't think so, seems like it would have smelled pretty bad. Probably smelled pretty bad just before she grenaded.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    05/01/09

    @Unevolved- Recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists.: Haha, I was actually thinking the same thing... It looks like tar mixed with chocolate pudding...


    @d3c509b aka Steve: I loled.

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