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    Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE

    Vengeance Power Engine

    Honda Insight 1.3 L i-VTEC and 10 kW Motor

    Dodge Ram 5.7 Liter HEMI V8

    Lexus IS350 2GR-FSE V6

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    I was at the show yesterday and marveled at these engines in person. I think the Scuderi shows a lot of promise with the "air hybrid" concept and overall simplicity and packaging. Storing energy in compressed air is pretty cool.


    The Vengeance was actually co-developed by a cousin of a friend of mine and is darn impressive as well.


    Id really like to see both working in action.


    Ideas like these show that the IC engine will live on well into the future.

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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    I don't understand how the vengeance can be a replacement for the reciprocating piston engine. The problem I see here is the cam driven sliding vanes. If it's cam driven, wouldn't the forces on the wall be huge if there is even a little mismatch? Or are they not showing an internal spring? Or perhaps this is why they will be rich and I will not be.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    04/22/09

    @philibuster: It's not a cam, it's a cam channel. Roller bearings are captured in the channel, guiding the path of the vanes and allowing precise control of their movement. You can see what I'm talking about in this image:

    [jalopnik.com]


    The brass colored insert in the center of the assembly is the anodized aluminum guide channel. They're inventing new bits, so the nomenclature isn't quite clear.

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    Image of elwood elwood
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    Hemi? Meh. And how are they implementing variable valve timing with only one camshaft riding in the block?


    That Lexus V6 could use some turbos too.

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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    04/22/09

    @elwood: Do a little research. It's Chrysler's cam-in-cam technology which enables these "ancient" pushrod engines to have variable calve timing. The new Viper engine also has this bit of technology.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    04/22/09

    @GasGuzzler: Growing up, we once purchased a heifer with variable calve timing, but the upkeep just wasn't worth it at the end of the day.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    I expected something from Wankelin' since you were talking about rotary flaws (one of).


    So is "Vengeance it!" going to replace the 'busa meme now that we've been exposed to this beast?

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    Image of elwood elwood
    04/22/09

    @acarr260: They'd have to actually have a production engine first before we could even think about implementing a new meme.


    And frankly, I just don't see it happening.

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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    04/22/09

    @elwood: You might want to check your sarcasm meter... I think it's busted.
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    Image of Jokermanpaco Jokermanpaco
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    If the vengeance works anywhere close to the way they say it will, umm yeah, small cars going VERY fast should be very easy. And yay for a rotary style motor with the potential to be reliable!
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    Image of elwood elwood
    04/22/09

    @Jokermanpaco: You think those sliding vanes and vane tip seals are going to be reliable?


    HAH!

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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    04/22/09

    @elwood: The seals are an improvement on the material currently in use on the Renesis rotary, and the precision of the vane control is better as well. Considering those motors are fairly durable and operate at five times the RPMs of this engine, I'd say yes, they'll be durable.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    This isn't so much conventional porn as it is guro, you know.
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    Oooh yeah baby, check out the copper wrapping on that Honda...


    Wait, that Lexus has a catalytic convertor, man what's with all this 'safe sex' stuff?

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    Nothing like a well-lubricated reciprocating piston and some valves to liven up your morning.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    Congratulations, I am now at full fucking mast in the middle of an office full of people. Looks like I won't be able to get up for a while.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @Ash85: As soon as the little hearts come back, you're getting another.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    You cannot mention "booth professionals" in your synopsis unless you post photographic evidence.


    There is a law or something.

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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    I wouldn't mind engaging in SAExual Congress with any of these.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/22/09

    In reply to Top Five Pieces Of Hot Engine Porn At SAE
    What's the deal with the Vengeance Power Engine?
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: By what's the deal, I mean why aren't they putting this in trucks? For example a Ford F-350.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    04/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I don't know, but I'll take two.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    04/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Seal life and durability would be my guess. If there shit was as great as they say it is, Caterpillar would be out of business in the large-scale generator market.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/22/09

    @elwood: Those can always be improved, no?
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    Image of elwood elwood
    04/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Improved? Yes. Can they be improved enough to work in a production-ready engine that's going to have to work at the rated output nearly 100% of the time as a generator? I don't know.


    But for years companies like Caterpillar and Cummins have built large diesel engines for the power generation and shipping markets, and if this engine was really that competitive in terms of cost, reliability, and efficiency, they'd have way more investors throwing money at them.

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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    04/22/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli, elwood: They just got it together recently. I suspect there are several things to iron out, but their design holds a lot of promise.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    04/22/09

    @elwood: They just finished the engine, this is its debut and judging by the number of people constantly in their booth, I suspect they'll have more interested investors after this evening.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/21/09

    In reply to 2009 SAE: We'll Do Anything To Hit CAFE Targets
    Elementary, my dear Twatson.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    04/21/09

    In reply to 2009 SAE: We'll Do Anything To Hit CAFE Targets
    This year's Formula SAE is going to blow.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    04/21/09

    In reply to 2009 SAE: We'll Do Anything To Hit CAFE Targets
    I shall now fart in your general direction - propelling me across the finish line in the lead. Powered by Heinz. I got yer KERS right here! (grabs ass with both hands)
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