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engineerd
06/22/09

In reply to 2010 Mercedes S63, S65 AMG: Super S-Class Gets More Power!
Personally, I'm waiting for an S69 with bi-turbo V12 AND the NA V8. One up front, one in back. If you do it just right, they both reach peak torque at the same time and you enjoy the rush.
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Jagvar
06/22/09

In reply to 2010 Mercedes S63, S65 AMG: Super S-Class Gets More Power!
Thanks to depreciation, you can pick up a used W220 S65 for roughly half the price of a new S550 these days.

Of course, I can't even afford a used C-Class, but still...
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brandegee
06/22/09

@Jagvar: That's because the Mercedes repair garage doesn't accept payments on the installment plan. As soon as these cars exit warranty, their value is largely destroyed.
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
06/22/09

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I've always felt the V12 should have more horsepower.

Somewhere around 700 horsepwer sounds right.
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Elhigh
06/22/09

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That's exactly what the target market needs - more power! So Mila can get to the handicapped spot sooner, so Tony can ding more Porsches in less time, so incredibly rich people who don't think twice about dropping six figures on a CAR can continue to mosey along in the same slow traffic as the rest of us, held back by the same speed limits and laws as the rest of us, and NEVER EVER actually open the barn door for all those ponies.

Tell me, what exactly is the point of all that power in the States? Why not just dip the thing in Ecstasy and call that the added value?
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.357
06/22/09

@Elhigh: Well, I can get on a back road here in Canada and just floor the throttle and set off like a rocket. In traffic? I'm courteous and I just go along with everyone else. I use blinkers, I don't speed I just drive.
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pauljones
06/22/09

@Elhigh: Where do you live?

The speed limit in the US is 65mph by law, but the common speed is 75mph, with 80-90mph not being uncommon, either. And let's face it, if you're on the road going 65mph and trying to pass another guy going 65mph, well, you probably weren't sharp enough to pass the written exam and paid some guy named Pablo in downtown to make you a fake driver's license. And then there is the 100ft or less merge-lanes that can be scary as hell, and sometimes downright unsafe, if your ass can't accelerate quickly enough to merge into freeway traffic.

So, yes, in summary, there is a purpose for all of that power.

Also, if Mila Kunis is involved, I'll sign up.
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Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
06/22/09

@Elhigh:

DUDE..
I completely AGREE!
If ya go check out my comments about the ML AMG.. its fuckin sick.

Who in their right mind.. needs a vehicle of this size..
And with that kind of power.

And..
If MILA KUNIS is involved.. (If I remember correctly she managed to pick up a SC from about 2-3yrs ago to drive around.) Gutless - pointless - ugly as shit.
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pauljones
06/22/09

@Tossed Accordtaco salad over Malibu: May someone post a hot picture of Mila Kunis to make you see the error of your ways.

@CaptMatt15 is high on 9000 rpm: Yeah, that's true, now that I think of it. There are some in the northern midwest, too.
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Elhigh
06/22/09

@Elhigh: Okay guys, here's where we're tripping up:

525hp to move a two-ton car to a limited top speed of 155mph is just dumb. Sure we've all seen the triple digits - big whoop. My truck will do 95 even if it sounds really really unhappy at that speed. Big whoop.

There just isn't that much point to this car. Its raison d'etre is conspicuous consumption, a flaunting of wealth. Again I say, big whoop.

I can go freaking fast in traffic in this awful sham of a car, a vehicle so expensive that it costs more than a nice little house in the suburbs, or I can buy a good used Camaro and go freaking fast in that, and buy the house.

Just saying. I can't get behind it. It's not a car, it's an accessory.
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.357
06/22/09

@Elhigh: 525hp to move a two-ton car to a limited top speed of 155mph is just dumb... My truck will do 95 even if it sounds really really unhappy at that speed... Big whoop... I can buy a good used Camaro and go freaking fast in that...

OK, it's not about the top speed, but how it gets there. A 911 GT2 is slower to 60 than a Turbo. After that, it absolutely destroys it. I mean, after a certain point, the Camaro won't stand a chance. You would understand after flooring that throttle even once. And, it's also utter lunacy that a car that weighs this much is this fast. And isn't that what Jalopnik is about? And, if you have the money, why not spend it? I mean you could have a house, but purchases like this aren't rational. It's all for the fun of owning a modern German muscle car.
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Elhigh
06/22/09

@Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: If rationality is what we're trying to avoid, then buying a brand-new factory certified hot rod is absolutely the wrong way to go. My particular flavor of Jalopnosity is digging in with both hands and creating my own fire breathing luxury express. And therein lies my contempt: the people who buy this car have no appreciation for the car itself. They have no investment of their soul or aspiration into the car, only into what it can do for them.

The people who buy this car will have done nothing for the car.

So, if I had the money to spend, would I buy this car? No freakin way. A Lamborghini Espada? Absolutely. You've got to be effing insane to saddle one of those babies up. Insane, and blessed with a big garage full of tools, and a fresh copy of Rosetta Stone: Italian. Or a BMW 7-series - attention hogs. Or I'd build my own. Start with a Crown Vic, and work the wrenching magic - how fantastic a ride would that be, a hairy chested Crown Vic that can cheerfully cruise at 120 all day, with stacks of muscle left over, and a ride suitable for the Dragon, the turnpike, or the track?

The AMGs are a mighty swing - and a miss. Where I come from, they are not Jalopnik at all.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
06/22/09

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"But the only reason anyone buys the AMG is for what's under the hood."

And what's missing from the trousers.
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.357
06/22/09

@boosted-lego-wagon -> now boosted to 350hp: Shut up! I'm not compensating! I just like speed!
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Dhillaz 2.0
06/22/09

@Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: I heard taking speed makes it smaller.
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.357
06/22/09

@Dhillaz drives a Chevrolet Taco: I don't take speed, I sell spee... I mean energy drinks...
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deadmoon
06/22/09

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"as soon as its door is opened, the S 65 AMG welcomes the driver with large, animated "AMG V12 BITURBO" lettering in the instrument cluster's central display."

hopefully I would know this before I was allowed to open the drivers door ?
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
06/22/09

@deadmoon: Mercedes makes no assumptions.
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engineerd
06/22/09

@deadmoon: My Camry rental does the same thing. It scrolls "Welcome to Camry" on the radio.
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.357
06/22/09

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Now I can deliver my cocai... I mean sugar deliveries even faster!
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.357
06/22/09

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Well, as long as the paparazzi have cars slower than the electronically-limited top speed of 15 MPH.

Hey, my AMG is way faster!
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
06/22/09

@Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: They'll eventually fix that. And then deny it ever happened.
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engineerd
06/22/09

@Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Yes, but you can reach that top speed in 1 second flat.
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.357
06/22/09

@engineerd hates hydrogen leaks: Yeah, I guess you have a point there.
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