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    Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows

    When The Germans Came to Formula One
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    I'm just afraid that Brawn won't be as good under direct Mercedes leadership. Hopefully Button will stay and they'll lure another great driver for the other spot. At least they've got the brain of brawn to lead them. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .: Button signed with McLaren yesterday. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @Maxichamp: No Multi-diffuser=No championship. After the rest of the teams went to the multi-diff, Brawn was just "good" #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @cityag: Agreed. Why did Button win the championship? 33% 2x diffuser, 33% strong Merc engine, 33% was slightly better driver than Rubens, 1% raw talent. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Great list, but no SSK/L? M-B ran these regularly 1931-1934 at major races, even winning Nurburgring in 1931. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    I will be honest, I really can't wait for the next season to start. F1 has been awesome for the last season, both on and off.

    Let's add more gasoline to the fire. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Now that I'm studying for a year in Berlin, I made a pilgrimage out to AVUS. There's a 125 meter high mini-Eifel Tower a block from where that title photo was taken, and from the top you can see the endless grey line of what used to be the straight fade off into the flats of Northern Germany. If you don't mind walking along the edge of the autobahn for a few hundred meters, you can get out onto what used to be the track itself. The whole experience, especially at dusk watching lights flicker by and hearing the howl of superbikes piercing the cold November air, was utterly unreal. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    And now, some more 50's era Silver Arrow goodness #silverarrows
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    11/17/09


    @scroggzilla raids again: Stirling Moss on the Monza banking...1955 #silverarrows
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    11/17/09


    @scroggzilla raids again: Mr. Fangio in his "office" #silverarrows
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    11/17/09


    @scroggzilla raids again: The winning 300 SLR, piloted by Moss and Collins, on the 55 Targa Florio #silverarrows
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    11/17/09


    @scroggzilla raids again: Juan Manuel Fangio on his way to yet another win, 1954 Swiss Grand Prix #silverarrows
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    11/17/09


    @scroggzilla raids again: one more...Moss and Jenkinson, in color no less, on the 55 Mille Miglia #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: Has to be the best or top 3 best looking race cars ever... #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: It has always bothered me that great engineers existed back then, of course and nobody thought to make wider tyres! #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: What I would have given be there watching the 55' Mille Miglia. A race still talked about almost 60 years later. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .: If I had the keys to a time machine, the 55 Mille Miglia would be one of several motorsport-related stops I'd want to make. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Great. The plucky Brit team from Brackley gets consumed by Germans and becomes an all German team. German staff, German drivers, German owners. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Der Silberpfeil!!!! #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    "not a typo". That is awesome.

    And totally terrifying. Those tires are, what, 5 inches wide? Tops? And the only 'driver aid' was Rudolf's big toe...

    Men had bigger balls back then.

    Or smaller brains.

    Nope. Definitely just bigger balls. Probably bigger brains, too, for that matter.
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Here's hoping that Merc GP will hire Heidfeld. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Peter, do you know the race that 1st photo was taken at? The German GP was only held at the Avus circuit once (1959), and that was after Mercedes Benz and the W196 retired from motorsports. #silverarrows
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    @scroggzilla raids again: and the answer is the non F1 Championship, Grosser Pries von Berlin in 1954. The winner....the very Germanic looking Karl Kling #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    Good job, Mr. Oreosz.....great article and wonderful photos. I especially like No. 12, the 1955 300SLR. #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Mercedes-Benz's Silver Arrows
    So, what is it with the Germans building horrifyingly dangerous machinery from extremely flammable materials? #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: Well, the normal operating parameters don't include the outside being on fire, so obviously it should work fine.
    I mean, the Germans never have anything go wrong, do they? #silverarrows
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    11/17/09

    @Tyson: Well, you know the Germans make good stuff.

    "Well, the normal operating parameters don't include the outside being on fire, so obviously it should work fine." -- I need to work this line of logic into day-to-day use. #silverarrows
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    04/03/09

    In reply to When The Germans Came to Formula One
    Awesome photos. Definitely the biggest deal about the W196 is the direct-injection I-8.


    The use of Elektron was not really that remarkable except that it was obviously dangerous and probably expensive. The first VW Beetle prototype used 20kg of the stuff in the drivetrain, and many 1920s race cars used it. Magnesium use today is tremendous.


    "The car was wrapped in sheets of Elektron, an ultralight and very flammable alloy of magnesium."


    So both the chassis and bodywork were Elektron? No wonder Levegh's SLR torched so badly.

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    04/03/09

    In reply to When The Germans Came to Formula One
    "No vultures were encountered on the Autobahn...".

    Excellent line.

    Road legal 300SLR?

    Awesome. What would that be worth if it was still around I wonder.
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    04/03/09

    @X-Zambian: Uhlenhaut's SLR is still around. It's in the Mercedes Benz museum.
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    04/03/09

    @SCROGGZILLA!!!:

    Ah. Didn't know that. Unlikely ever to be sold then.
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    04/03/09

    @X-Zambian: Only if the Carpocalypse gets much, much worse.
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    04/03/09

    @SCROGGZILLA!!!: I have some old footage of it which I'm editing in the coming days. Yakking in Hungarian with English subs and driving to see the Uhlenhaut in a 34-year old diesel Benz.
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    04/02/09

    In reply to When The Germans Came to Formula One
    A beautifully written article as usual Peter.


    Of course it should be borne in mind that Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines, supplier to McLaren, Force India and Brawn GP are in fact what used to be Ilmor, based in Brixworth, Northamptonshire, England and acquired by Daimler-Benz in 2005.


    That's a British engine that took the 1-2 (almost 1-2-3) on Sunday.


    Nick

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    04/02/09

    @nstrug: Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for pointing it out. And, ahem, let's see how to rewrite my post-
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