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    2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    Want.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    I'm waiting for the "SE Classic" with a vinyl top, tape deck and 120 HP.


    In seriousness, I'm digging the retro badges on the fenders.

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    This is awesome. End of story.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    01/16/09

    @danio3834: Awesome, but for the price you could do pretty well in the classic market:

    [motors.shop.ebay.com]
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    I loves me some V8 rumble and steer-with-your-foot antics, but the Challenger is getting really hard for me to defend.


    376 HP 402 ft-lb to get under a 6 second 0-60? That's pathetic, and not worth anywhere near $35k.


    This needs to be 30-32k, and the RT (which can barely keep up with a Mustang GT) should be $24-27k.


    I'm willing to bet the V6 Camaro could give this thing a run for its money. That would be the $24k V6 Camaro.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @Mad_Science: You, sir, speak truthiness and wisdom. You get a heart-clicky for that.


    Shit, that UN-friended you. That's not what I meant... no... no, come back... crap. Javascript error? What? Jezebel? How'd I get back onto Jezebel?


    DAMN YOU CHRYSLER!

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    @Deartháir:


    Uh oh, we've lost him to Jezebel again.


    I hate it when that happens.


    And on that note, I think we ought to send out a search and rescue team for Ash; I haven't seen him return since his incursion into Jezebel.

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    Image of EffieGodinka EffieGodinka
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    It looks like the wannabees and haters have had their say.
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    Image of Illegal_Machine Illegal_Machine
    01/16/09

    @EffieGodinka: Ok, you tell me why this car is better than a $31K LS3 Camaro SS? The obvious one is MAYBE looks. People seem to like the Challenger's styling over the Camaro.


    I'll start if for you....


    1) Looks
    2) ?
    3) ?

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    Image of EffieGodinka EffieGodinka
    01/16/09

    @Illegal_Machine:Seems rather funny to me that the Challengers are selling like hotcakes but are being compared to an overhyped unavailable vehicle, can you say GTO.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @EffieGodinka: Mmmm. For my money, I'd still take the GTO. The Aussies KNOW how to make a muscle car.
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    Image of Illegal_Machine Illegal_Machine
    01/16/09

    @EffieGodinka: Over hyped like a 425hp Hemi that can barely pull a 13 second quarter mile....for $42 grand....PLUS mark up?


    It's easy to get a car out if you just take an existing car (Charger SRT-8, etc) shave 2 doors off and keep the same interior, auto slush box and motor in it.


    The Challenger has been a huge perfomrance let down, it's too fat and is wayyy too expensive.

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/16/09

    @Illegal_Machine: By barely pull a 13 second quarter, I think you mean nearly pull of a 12 second pass.


    I have witnessed an SRT go 13.2 stock. That aint bad.

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    Image of elwood elwood
    01/16/09

    @danio3834: Yeah, but it's not that good either.
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    Image of Illegal_Machine Illegal_Machine
    01/16/09

    @danio3834: They seem to average 13.5+ from what I've seen.


    The Charger/300C/Magnum's all appear to be faster for some reason.

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/16/09

    @elwood: Yes, it is, for what you get.


    This isn't a soap box.

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/16/09

    @Illegal_Machine: From all the SRT cars, I haven't seen much consistency in back to back runs.


    I saw an SRT 300 make a 12.9 pass, then make a 13.2
    Then watched an SRT Magnum run a 13.2 then a 13.6


    So far, Ive only seen the one SRT Challenger at the track, and it ran the 13.2 at 100something mph. So I wouldn't be surprised to see posted times of a few tenths above that or a few tenths below that.


    It was an automatic car too, so the 6-speed version will offer up some opportunity to shave down the times as well.


    In all, the car performs to what I expected it to, similarly to the SRT 4-doors.

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    Image of clinto clinto
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    I followed a new R/T the other day on the highway and was able to get in front, beside and behind it. In the mirrors, it looks great.


    But when I was riding beside it, it looked odd. Not terrible, just weird.


    When I was behind it, I thought it was awful.

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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    Am I the only one who thought the best news in that release was the return of B5 Blue?
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    Image of pres pres
    01/16/09

    @Mike the Dog:


    You're not alone. That was the color of my mom's '71 Cuda convertible. I just hope not to see one of these in her driveway.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    01/16/09

    @Mike the Dog: Just looked that up.


    ...nice...

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/16/09

    @Mike the Dog: Yeah, B5 blue kicks ass. Thats the color I'm getting mine in.
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    Image of MagicalTrevor MagicalTrevor
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    Why would they possibly want to take the press photos in and around Detroit's factories?!
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    01/16/09

    @MagicalTrevor: Saves money compared to going somewhere pretty.
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    Image of jimclarkfan81 jimclarkfan81
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    i'm not so hot on the 20 inch wheels. Muscle cars should have 15's to 17's! Get some rubber on that thing!
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    Image of JC Whitless JC Whitless
    01/16/09

    @jimclarkfan81: Be a real rebel. You Americans with your Drag Strips and Nascar, get some real automotive experience. Drive something British. You'll be the king of the road in a Triumph. Or better yet, pay your local towing firm to drag around something British, which would be the closest thing to a drag strip you'd actually see.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    How much of a premium over the regular R/T are you paying for the stripes and the hood scoops? Because unless it's only a couple hundred bucks, it's not worth it.
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    01/16/09

    @elwood: That was my first thought too...I think the base R/T stickers for just above $30k, which makes a $4k premium for low restriction exhaust, hood scoops, and pretty stickers seem kind of ridiculous
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    Image of 1300ccsoffury 1300ccsoffury
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    Fully disputes the age-old question "they don't make 'em like they used to".
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    Image of pres pres
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    Great, they've put a striped shirt on the fat girl. Please note that stripes really aren't slimming, people are just telling you that to make you feel better.
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    Image of justpete justpete
    01/16/09

    @pres: The Black paint works a little, but yes. Its still a fat ass when she stands next to her hot Mustang freinds. Even though she would still give a great ride!! HA!
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    Image of pres pres
    01/16/09

    @justpete:


    But like that scooter, it's only cool until your friends find out.

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    Image of jduffy13 jduffy13
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    The more I look at this thing the sides of the car are too tall and the car is too high off the ground.


    It just looks so heavy and lacks the athletic vibe you'd get from the original.


    I hope they sell a million of them but it's still messed up looking.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/16/09

    @jduffy13: I agree. It looks good until you park it next to something a little less portly. I was sitting at a red light on Outer Drive the other day next to one and my Mustang felt downright puny next to it.


    Its still a mean looking fat bitch, though.

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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    01/16/09

    @jduffy13: They look a lot better in person, but this is a BIG car. It makes the Mustang and Camaro look dainty in comparison.
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    Image of Bumblebee Bumblebee
    01/16/09

    @jduffy13: I watched one park in Jersey City on Tuesday night and was amazed how ginormous it was. When I think muscle car, I don't think this kind of excessiveness.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @graverobber: Fine Corinthian Pleather: I actually thought the opposite. It's a car that photographs well, but in person looks ridiculously huge. They need to try again. Same car, make it again, set photocopier to 75%, do that.


    I've seen a whole bunch of them now, and they are massive, hulking beasts... and they're way too heavy to be a sports car. I chased one on the highway at least once a week during September and October, and with, what, 1.5x my horsepower, he can't get away from me. I'm not a big fan of a Shelby GT500KR, but credit where credit is due, that sucka can get away from me, no problem whatsoever.

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    Image of crewcutkid crewcutkid
    01/16/09

    @Deartháir: Whatever.
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    Image of TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah
    01/16/09

    @graverobber: Fine Corinthian Pleather: No, this car just looks like a marshmallow. I'm not threatened by fatty when I look at the edgy Camaro, lean and mean.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @crewcutkid: Do the math. I have a 2600-lb car with 240 horses. The SRT8 is a 4200-lb car with 420 horses.
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    01/16/09

    @TexanIdiot25 IS FINISHING HIS GOD DAMN TRUCK: Unlike the edgy Camaro though, the Challenger actually exists.
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    Image of racerx racerx
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    I know this is a bit of a porker weight-wise but "less than six seconds" to 60 with 376hp and 410lb-ft is pretty weak.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @racerx: Agreed. I have video proof somewhere that my VW will do 0-100 km/h in 5.5 with a bad launch. I can't get too tingly in my naughty bits for those numbers, particularly considering I could pull a U-turn at speed at the end and come back down the strip, where the Challenger would just slide, roll and crash.
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    Image of crewcutkid crewcutkid
    01/16/09

    @Deartháir: Oh brother.
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    Image of racerx racerx
    01/16/09

    @Deartháir: You have a Corrado right? What do you have done to it to enable a 0-60 in 5.5?
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @racerx: I freely admit I should proofread before hitting "submit". Should have read 6.5, not 5.5. Big difference there.


    But what have I done? Upgraded "Stage IV" supercharger and pulley kit, including a port and polish, resulting in a boost increase from about 8 lbs to about 15. I've got a Porsche fuel-pressure regulator, a Neuspeed boost controller, port and polish on the head, upgraded fuel injectors, an Audi intake and racing cam I know nothing about (previous owner bought them), a custom remapped ECU chip, H&R sport springs and Bilstein shocks, and a Quaife LSD. I tried an upgraded ignition system, but it actually made things worse, not better. So far, probably around $11k into the engine.


    Still a lot of bugs to work out. New boost hoses are step one, because if I push it too hard, they tend to come apart. Not something you want to have happen on the highway when you pull out to pass.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/16/09

    @crewcutkid: Don't jump to conclusions. Some of us actually do spend a significant amount of time and money on hot-rodding cars. Although I should have typed 6.5, not 5.5, which kind of destroys my own credibility


    I think the video is on my photobucket, but photobucket is blocked from work. I'll check when I get home.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    In reply to 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic: More Stripes, More Muscle
    I wish that I had the money to buy a new car right now.


    On a side note, it is interesting to see that Chrysler production will indeed be resuming.

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