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SundaySunday
12/15/08

In reply to Porsche Follows Audi, Pulls Factory Team From ALMS
Well, drat and double drat! No diesel Audis and no Porsche Spyders. This makes me especially unhappy, as I'm still hoping to be a corner worker at Belle Isle this summer. ALMS is my favorite racing series and I was so looking forward to those prototypes in particular.
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günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
12/15/08

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okay... just read the post... haven't read the comments yet...

come on jalopnik... can't we find a way to go back to the old format that requires no left-right scrolling....

that makes all of the commentariat happier....

jalop model year '09 is not an improvement as far as individual posts go......

i understand the change in the front page... i don't need it... i read them all.. but.. i understand...

but the pages that follow... the full articles... need to follow more of the '07 format (in my opinion) with big picture... and text below... that one doesn't need to scroll back and forth to read....

and then comments... whether in classic or "new wave" form... what TF ever... we have the choice...

but i don't like having to scroll left and right constantly to try and read the journalistic posts made by the gawker paid staff (*note.... this problem isn't just jalopnik.... all gawker sites have changed font size/format and makes for a much more difficult reading experience...)
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bravenrace
12/15/08

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Man, I hope this isn't the start of the demise of ALMS. I watch and follow almost every type of road racing, and ALMS is my favorite. Crap.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
12/15/08

@bravenrace: If anything, there will just be less emphasis on prototypes for a while. I still think they're in better shape than Grand-Am, judging by the amount of manufacturer, sponsor and fan involvement.
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Al Navarro
12/15/08

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Why don't they all just switch to 1/8 gas RC on a nice go kart track? That would still be pretty awesome.

Or perhaps the mother of all Scalextric sets?

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Hell, why not just do everything virtually? I've seen the graphics on Grid and GT5...who needs IRL (in real life) racing!
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layabout
12/15/08

@Al Navarro: "who needs IRL (in real life) racing!"

How can a former Se7en owner say such a thing,that really hurt. ;)
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
12/15/08

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Maybe Porsche's getting out of ALMS in order to buy up Honda's F1 team and get back into the big leagues? Prolly not.
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layabout
12/15/08

@Van Sarockin: I wouldn't rule it out,as i mentioned earlier Audi or Porsche were showing an interest in the Redbull team not long ago,i think mainly to supply engines. But now a gap has appeared they are in the minority of car makers that could afford to do it.
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MushyHeirloom
12/15/08

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Porsche out of ALMS? Next we'll be hearing that GM's cancelling its pickup trucks.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
12/15/08

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How sad. ALMS has been some of the best racing in the US for the past few years. They have a very good program, and now the heart's being cut out of it. Somewhere, maybe someone will bring Big Wheel races to these tracks, so we can enjoy unbridled competition once again...
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Boosted Lego Wagon
12/15/08

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"There's no explanation for why either team pulled out of the North American series. The most obvious reason is the Carpocalypse, though it is possible the company is looking to compete in another series."

24hrs of LeMons?
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jip1080
12/15/08

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I've heard rumor of Porsche, Alfa Romeo, and Audi considering supplying engines to IRL. Porsche as soon as '10. Wonder if this is the first part of a move like that.
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GTI_MK5
12/15/08

@jip1080:

there has been rumors or Porsche getting into F1 for awhile now. Could there be a Porsche/Audi F1 team in the near future? they have the resources....
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layabout
12/15/08

@GTI_MK5: There was talk of Audi & failing that Porsche getting involved with the Redbull team. Not for the first time a link between Audi & Redbull.
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Maxichamp
12/15/08

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Game over, dude, game over!
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Pessimippopotamus
12/15/08

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Well. With Audi and Porsche pulling out, Drayson-Barwell separated, and Corvettes moving down to GT2, I might not go to Long Beach Grand Prix next year...

every day on the event calendar.
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Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness
12/15/08

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What else can you say but -

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layabout
12/15/08

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Not really surprising also it was announced over the weekend that Suzuki are pulling out of WRC,i wonder if Nissan might take a shot at GT2.
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c0de
12/15/08

@layabout met the real Santa: Maybe Suzuki should put that car in production and hit the Series N (dunno what's it's called now, but the production car thinggie)
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Pessimippopotamus
12/15/08

@layabout met the real Santa: With the GT-R? Don't make me laugh. Har har.
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layabout
12/15/08

@c0de: You got it,PWRC. They claim it's to secure its own business environment for tomorrow, the organisation reviews every aspect of the operations and decided to focus on the core business functions such as the manufacturing system, environment technologies and development of new-generation powertrains. The credit crunch is hitting everyone where it hurts. They will still support/supply private entries using Suzuki's.
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scroggzilla raids again
12/15/08

@layabout met the real Santa: Nissan/NISMO are already running and winning with GT-R's in the Japan Super GT championship. It would be nice to see NISMO get after Porsche, Ferrari, Chevrolet, and BMW in the ALMS.
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GTI_MK5
12/15/08

@SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!:

the GTR that is racing in the Super GT is NOTHING like the street car. its about as similar as the toyota camry is to its nascar counterpart

i believe the GTR is using a tube frame a V8...its a GTR only by name.
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layabout
12/15/08

@GTI_MK5: You're right it is a V8,but im sure Nissan will be capable of building a car for GT2,they have a habit of pissing off the show ponies.

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scroggzilla raids again
12/15/08

@GTI_MK5: I didn't realize that Super GT specs were so NASCAR. Thanks for the enlightenment.
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GTI_MK5
12/15/08

@layabout met the real Santa:

seeing that the transmission cant handle a few LC starts idk how they expect it to last in a competition setting.

i would love to see it though. but that would also mean Porsche gets to bring the GT2, and Chevy could bring the ZR1, Ferrari seems to know what they are doing, ooh that would be a good time.
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scrubnick
12/15/08

@GTI_MK5: ZR1? Uh, no. Even the rules making organizations realized that any body can slap forced induction on a huge engine. Rules limit forced induction engines to much less than the 6.2L of the ZR1. Gonna hafta bring the Z06 engine.
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Pessimippopotamus
12/15/08

@GTI_MK5: They wouldn't use the DSG for obvious reasons. Chevy already has the C6.R, replaced by(converted to?) the GT2 car, Porsche has its venerable GT3 RSR, Ferrari has its F430 GT, with a couple of oddities like the Doran Ford GTR and the Panoz Esperante. GT2 class is going to be good next year, for all the wrong reasons. Ugh...
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Pessimippopotamus
12/15/08

@scrubnick: GM LS7R.
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Pessimippopotamus
12/15/08

@layabout met the real Santa: That's not possible. For one, FIA GT2 restriction doesn't allow DSG, as well as AWD. Nissan would have to make a car specifically for racing in GT2. So a GT2 GT-R would be another show pony. Of course, FIA GT2's not the same as ACO GT2, but both are very similar. And ACO absolutely hates cars built specifically for racing in GT class so it'll never homologate such a car.
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DoctorNine
12/15/08

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A lot of the naysayers thought the Audi move was to open up Porsche's chances. This proves what I said about the relevance of the move to development.
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