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35 more parts will be available for your new Mustang, none of which will make it faster. We at Roush are proud of our floormats, though. When we finally get the bugs worked out of the supercharger you can spend another few thousand dollars to compete with a new Camaro.
02/12/09
...Here at Roush we have found that the public's desire for tuner Mustangs is recession proof as we set a record last year for Roush-logoed e-brake covers.
02/12/09
Also, seeing as the engine didn't really change, I don't forsee many bugs. ;)
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Historically, Shelby. Nowadays, probably a fair tie between Shelby and Saleen. Roush produces cars that are the match of Shelbys and Saleens, but isn't quite as well-known; kind of like the confident old guy that sits at the back of bar, whose is so confident in himself and kicked so much ass that he really has nothing left to prove.
That being said, I am not much of a fan of any of them.
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@pauljones: Interesting views,as you probably know it's not a car that's really sold in the U.K.,the only Mustangs i've seen here are generally owned by flash types with bad haircuts & big egos that think they own the best car in the world. They're not a favourie of mine as i prefer the look of the older,classic Mustangs.
02/12/09
I am not a huge Mustang guy either, for the same reason that yo pointed out about their stereotypical owners. They are also still a little behind in the tech category, too.
But at the same time, part of what makes Mustangs so great isn't how much they have evolved over the past 40 years, but rather how little they have evolved. They started out as sporting little machines that were simple and had tons of potential. And, rather than going through monumental revolutions from model to model, they have simply undergone evolutionary changes to suit the time that they are being sold.
And, after all these years, that hasn't changed. It can be argued that they have been hampered by added weight and options, but there isn't much that can be done about that. Some of the weight has to do with meeting US safety standards, and you can still order a stripper version without all the options.
When it comes down to it, each progressive Mustang, while not revolutionary, has done one thing and one thing well: offer more of the same, only better. And for the Mustangs target audience, that's all they really want.
So, from that standpoint, I may not care as much for Mustangs, and I may not care for their stereotypical owners at all, but I do respect them, and I do respect the big tuners like Roush, Saleen, and Shelby that tinker with them.
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I have heard that 99% of all Mustangs are immediately shipped to Roush, Saleen, Shelby and Yemen.
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Seriously. Good one you for being original and keeping it original. The only other person I know with an original, stock, completely unmodified Mustang is my young cousin, as she doesn't care about going all that fast, just about having something that looks cool. It, too is a V6, but has an auto.
02/12/09
And then I stopped and pulled my head out of my ass.
The Mustang was originally a sporty, fun, reasonably-priced car. Yes, it can be modified about a million different ways to make it perform better. But that's not really why I bought it.
I bought it because I like the styling and I needed something with better fuel mileage than my F150.
I don't want it to be riced out. I don't want it to be faster than it is. I want it to be pure Mustang.
11/12/08
I remember the Nimitz class 1977 Ford LTD Country Squire wagon, which only came in gunmetal grey with white landing strips painted from nose to tailgate.
11/12/08
"Pardon me, give me the f*cking Grey Poupon NOW."
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Come, come lads, we must confound Jerry at every turn!
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Guy in the Kinko's lot: "Wow, is that a REAL one?"
Me: "A real one what?"
Guy: (Silently pondering the thousands of special-edition Mustangs)
Actually, I've gotten a turn behind the wheel of a lot of these things, and my favorite is the RAGT5MT. That'd be Regular-Ass GT with a 5-speed. You can have the rest of 'em.
11/12/08
I'm in the middle of writing an automotive dissertation on why the GT (preferably used) represents the best Mustang out there.
At ~$25k new, it's a pretty good deal for a really fun car that's not particularly sophisticated. At 30k and up...they're all just $25k cars with more horsepower and various kits.
...and really they're all $18k cars with less miles, because that's what a used GT goes for.
Do wish the GT had a 6 speed, though...
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Whatever, I'm done with this pony, in any form. I thought it looked good when I first saw it, very retro. But you know what, you can have too much of a good thing. (PT Cruiser) Its time to put this pony out to pasture.
Except for the Bullitt. Damn, McQueen is so cool. They could make a Bullitt edition Focus, and I would be tempted to buy it. As long as it was one McQueen would be proud of, and I would think that he would be as ashamed of it.
Remember, in Bullitt, that Mustang required serious modifications to keep up with the big Charger.
11/11/08
I have timeslips, and I shook the hands of the guys I raced, win or lose. And I did lose, but I was gracious about it. But I guess that makes me a wannabe douche, taking my car to the track, having fun, you know, stuff "freakin car guys" don't do.
But what do I know? I drive a sow's ear. But hey, it's a fast, good looking, mean sounding, well-made sow's ear.
11/12/08
In his rant, krautwagen's not saying Mustangs are no good...just that a $60k (or even half that, really) Mustang is a ridiculous proposition.
It's like a $15 hamburger. Nothing wrong with burgers, and more often than not, I'd prefer a nice burger to a fancy meal...but there's no way in hell to justify a $15 burger. It's just dumb.
In fact, this metaphor holds pretty well. There are a number of reasons why someone could attempt to justify charging $15 for a burger: massive quantities of meat, very high-quality ingredients, or maybe some combination of that and a swanky atmosphere.
Nonetheless...think of how you'd characterize the proud buyer of a $15 burger.
Such is the special edition Mustang.
11/12/08
Some people just don't want to be seen eating a $15 hamburger, or don't want their friends to know they eat hamburgers. Or they masquerade on the internet that they survive solely on a diet of prime rib.
Ground beef is a staple and it's here to stay.
11/11/08
I mean, let's call a spade a spade here, folks. I realize that some of you are born-and-bred Mustang fanboys, and that's fine. In fact, I'd *love* an honest-to-god Frank Bullitt-special '68 4-speed 390 car, or maybe even a GT500KR from 1970. But I'm so goddamn sick of gussied-up, half-assed wannabes that just looking at this thing makes me want to puke.
This Roush bastard is no more than yet another cynical attempt at turd polishing. You can shove all the horsepower, torque and fancy suspension you want under the thing, but it's still gonna reek of the injection-molded plastic interior parts and ersatz testosterone that will never overcome the current car's highschool-cheerleader-in-a-white-V6 demographic. Hate to break it to you, Jackie.
I mean, I'm a fucking CAR GUY. I have a deep and abiding appreciation for the aesthetics of speed, motion and soul in the world of automobilia. And the Mustang in any of its high-zoot variations (I'm looking at YOU, Shelby GT500) just doesn't fit in there anywhere. Strikes no chords. Moves me not. It's the chosen device of shaggy-haired trustfund high school douches, and (on the "higher end") whitebearded, white-velcro-sneaker-wearing fat guys making their last feeble grasps at the machismo of their long-gone youth.
Jalopnik, I applaud you for your depth of coverage when it comes to the Cult of Cars, no matter how distasteful, inane or nay, awesome. I also thank you for opportunity to express my opinions, and to extend a hearty FUCK YOU to Jack Roush, Steve Saleen, Steeda, and whoever else insists on making silk purses out of sows' ears.
This car is an insult to the P-51, the Rolls Royce Merlin and the men who gallantly flew and fought in these planes.
Sorry, it's been a long night and I've had a lot to drink...
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From what I understand, he also races Mustangs of the flying kind.
11/12/08
@Mike the Dog:
@fussball:
P 51-B Mustang...