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    1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street

    All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!

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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    As a Rootes Group nerd (I mean, "enthusiast") I love it, even if the rusted sills look very, very bad for a British unibody car. I'd rather have a Minx wagon, but this will do in a pinch. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Does anyone know why Loewy would so blatantly copy the 1953-54 Studebaker's design for the Minx? Was there an attempt to sell the Minx in the US through Studebaker dealers? If not, that seems like a lazy thing for a design consultant to do.

    The irony is that the Minx has a better-balanced look than the Studebaker sedans. Although the low-slung Starliner coupes were stunningly beautiful, the sedans were considerably taller -- and downright ugly. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: There was never any link between Studebaker and the Rootes Group besides their affiliation with Loewy and a little legal wrangling over who had the trademark to the name "Hawk." The lack of stylistic differentiation between the Minx and the Studebakers does seem lazy on Loewy's part, but it wasn't unique. Pininfarina used pretty much the same design for the Peugeot 404, Lancia Flaminia and Austin Westminster, and Bertone's small '60s sedans for Datsun and Mazda looked an awful lot like their Alfas. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Armand: Also, the big Fiat 1800/2300 shared the same styling concept as the 404 and BMC Farinas. As for the Bertone connection between the Alfa Romeo and the Mazda, the Mazda 1500/1800 body was originally intended for the 1967 Alfa 1750. Alfa turned it down, so Bertone sold the style to Mazda, and it doesn't look like a lot of changes were made. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: The Vauxhalls of the time looked like shrunken '58 Chevys. English Fords looked like various American Fords left in the dryer too long. Over in Germany, NSU was blatantly ripping off the '60 Corvair. The US was the style leader. So Loewy worked with what he knew. He was not the only designer of the time to recycle his themes for another company. The '64 Imperial shares some lines with the '61 Lincoln for a reason. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    I like the paint, and in general I like little cars that look like shrunken land barges, but you'll always be the only minx for me, Murilee.

    /mouthbreathing creepiness #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Can't argue with that two-tone paint job. Just perfect. And four cylinders looks about right for that critter. The rear looks like a 1960 Mercury, the front--old Ford? And all shrunk down to a handy traveling size. I'll take two. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    @Novaload: Probably fits nicely in the trunk of a Fairlane... #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Novaload: Apparently the two-tone paint job was known by Hillman as "The Gay Look". #rootesgroup
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    11/16/09

    @Lounge Singer Chamois: The people certainly look happy enough, but where are they, Morocco? #rootesgroup
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    08/10/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    This Project Car Hell is Carpocaplytic.

    Whoever buys these will need a bailout by November.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    14 Morris Minors? Watch for falling pianos.
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    @stoke has a JDM front wing: You're thinking Morris Marina:
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    @discontinuuity is missing Uncle Pete, the Auto...: This is a Morris Minor:
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    Looking at the extended list and images, makes me realize how many of those cars need "just enough" restoration to get out on a LeMons track, and at least get a few laps. A LeMons classic, perhaps? Of course, it might just end up being the shortest race of all time. The only concern I have is regarding the People's Curse award - as it would be wrong to further damage any of these any more, in fact, I think the correct thing to do would be having a priest spray them with holy water. Or maybe even have a holy water car wash.
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    08/09/09

    @madcows: non compos mentis methane machine: Well, People's Curse award could be to totally restore one...
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    It is as if the Car Gods looked down upon the world, watched the Explorers, Blazers and other guzzlers be crushed and said.
    "Let new villians rise, and take back what is ours, the road."
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    Wow... Actually, I would show up at that auction just to hang around the kind of amazing automotive nutcases that would see potential in this iron forest of ruins. I mean, this wont be some prestigious suit&tie auction here. The gathering will include many zany folks from all parts of the globe. Whichever cars do not sell... let them rot. Lets turn this location into a meet up destination for our own Automotive "Burning Man" Festival. Who else sees my vision?
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    08/09/09

    @AlienProbe: I'd go to an automotive Burning Man.
    Except instead of being high on drugs, we'd all be kind of stoned from the fumes in the air.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    Murilee, if you buy the Sunbeam Rapier I'll help you build a LeMon out of it. You can even borrow the big-valve head I've been saving for future Alpine hot-rodding. A Flaminia would also be cool, of course, if only because the DeDion rear end has a pair of u-joints outboard of the hubs.
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    08/09/09

    @Armand misses the banned: I'm trying and failing to understand how that would work. The u-joint thing, that is.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    A lot of those look like even touching them will cause them to disintegrate. Looking at them makes me think they would be prime craigslist candidates. "RAN WHEN PARKED" is one of the phrases that comes to mind.
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    08/09/09

    @nollid51: +1.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    This is heart-warming news.
    Yet all across Europe and even farther, west across the Atlantic, the faint odor of sulfur wafts along the breeze.
    And the Devil says, "There, my little rusty children! You have been rescued. Go out into the world and create me some sinners, with those 7 deadly sins --because there will be wrath, there will be envy, there will be greed and lust and pride in wanting to own the coolest ride, and gluttony in eating and drinking to console the torn knuckles and empty wallets --and sloth, when the restorer's will breaks, and he lieth motionless and unwilling to rise."
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    08/09/09

    @Novaload Wants the Jez 9 Back:
    That's just beautiful!
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    08/09/09

    @Novaload Wants the Jez 9 Back: And all this time I was thinking that Japanese build quality was the work of the devil....
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    08/09/09

    @skitter: He is Legion; he is everywhere.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    Tough call. Maybe the Gogomobil, or maybe the Ferrari 250. Lots of interesting choices, and a shit ton of craptacular dogs. And every one showroom fresh.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    Sweet damn! The auction is being held not too far from me. I'm definitely going to check out that field of dreams (or is it tears?)!
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    08/09/09

    @Nickyboy - cruising the Autobahn and listening...: Define "not too far" -- the Jalopnik Anonymous Car Co-op might be sending you along with a briefcase full of cash.
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    08/09/09

    @Novaload Wants the Jez 9 Back:
    I live in Geneva right now, so it's about an hour and half drive. Not far away by North American standards at all.

    Edit - plus I could fit in with all the Swiss private bankers walking around with suitcases full of cash!
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    08/09/09

    @Novaload Wants the Jez 9 Back: the assortment of cars is amazing, but i'm also very interested in the guys this auction will attract. i'd be happy to accompany the briefcase of money.
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    08/09/09

    In reply to All 700+ Historischer Autofriedhof Gürbetal Cars To Be Sold!
    LeMons Switzerland. Make it so, Murilee (and Jay).
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    08/09/09

    @bzr: If they can be wrestled away from the topsoil intact, a Swiss LeMons sounds like a wonderful exclamation point on the lives of 95% of them.
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