I just love the sparks coming off of the rollbar in the first video. Man, that's impressive. The yelling in the second one is good. The car got squirrely, and he knew he was in over his head. Bummer. #racing
Ahhh Nelson Ledges where you better know how your car is going to handle different kinds of pavement and how it reacts to changes in pavement. Last time I was there a mustang went off the same place and ended up on top of the tire wall. #racing
@Tomsk sez so long Ash78, and thanks for all the fish!: Maybe, but assuming your brakes actually work, its almost always better to skirt the apex so you have at much pavement as possible to get it slowed down before the slippery grass. Think of a heroic trail braking excersice. In this case, I think he was FUBAR'd either way. #racing
@jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms: Shouldn't brakes be used before the corner, especially when you are a student with an instructor in the car? :) Using them in a corner is only for those who like to roll the dice... #racing
@Turboner: Been a LONG time since I've completed braking in a straight line on track if the corner allows me to trail brake, which is usually around 80% of them. In this case yes, brake straight, but the point of the video is that he lost his brakes. #racing
@Novaload: I know nothing about the video, but the audio sound suspiciously like a she. Or a rather small child. The man yelling 'KILL SWITCH! KILL SWITCH!', on the other hand, is obviously a bear. #racing
@Novaload: A polite talking bear. He says thank you, and teaches fire safety by empowering us with the knowledge of kill switch. Smokey is among us. #racing
@Murilee Martin: I've never seen anything but troll-esque comments emanate from that username, and strange third person comments. I tend to ignore them myself- if they aren't troll-ey, they are obviously ignorant and not worthy of response.
Our Amazon lost a wheel in the first race, while I was driving, and the car simply skidded to a stop (I was fortunate enough to be able to get it off course!) Of course, that was a front wheel- losing a rear wheel is much, much more dangerous- especially in a turn!
It amazes me that a car as low centered as a Miata would flip like that rather than just sliding off into the grass. If it had slid then hooked the edge and rolled, sure - but this sucker jumps like it had an ACME hydraulic ram underneath it.
One moment, rolling through the corner - the next.. yard sale.
@Gaseous Clay: It was an RX-7, but yeah, pretty freaky still. I think the wheel got shoved under the back of the car, since he was on a corner, and that poped the back end up and initiated the roll. Sort of like when a swing-axle car gets lose in back around a turn. (Think Tatra, VW, Corvair, Porche)
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Seen at the Ojibwe Forests Rally this year, one of the safety guy's cars: #racing
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This is what I though of when viewing the Viper crash. #racing
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It looked like there was a lot more runoff area if he had gone straight. #racing
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The Viper vid, OTOH, is kinda funny 'cause you know what's going through this guy's mind.
"ooooohhhh, this is gonna hurt...my WALLLEEETTT" #racing
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...Just like a Rolex watch, it's good for 4-5 years then dies.
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One moment, rolling through the corner - the next.. yard sale.
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Regardless, I bet you are right that the wheel became a ramp.
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...sorry.
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He must be butter 'cause he is on a roll.
/RIP Steve Mazur