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    TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars

    Farago Freaks Out GM PR, Takes His Fight For Truth To The "Maximum"

    The Truth About Cars Hit by Denial of Service Attack
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    Image of ViergangFuchs ViergangFuchs
    09/20/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    You will miss him when he is gone, I promise you that. RF and I disagree more than we agree, but he is exactly the type of journalist which has mostly disappeared in the Internet age --- the dedicated muckraker.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    09/19/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    And I didn't even get to write Death Watch 1. Oh well. Feels good, man.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    09/19/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    I'm not gonna lie, I tend not to care for Farago's work - I find it generally negative, and convinced of his greatness (and more than a little sanctimonious about how much more honest and truthy he is than any other automotive journalist that EVAR lived!!!), but as far as I'm concerned, he is TTAC. It'll be weird to not skip by his articles.

    As a side note though, on a few recent occations, he's mentioned owning a Mercedes GL - does anyone know if he's pretty well off independant of TTAC, or is there now gonna be a hell of a lot of money to distribute amongst the other writers?
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Also: brilliant headline.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    I've been on TTAC for years. I always liked his car reviews (and that's what I was there for). Never really cared about the deathwatch series, it got really repetitive after a while. But he's a good reviewer and more honest than most. Even when I disagreed, I could respect the fact that it was his real, undiluted opinion I was reading.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    09/18/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: +1. While many accuse him of having an axe to grind with the Detroit Three, he was one of only a few car pundits who was willing to call a turd a turd, rather than "not quite ready for prime time" or some other advertiser-friendly platitude.
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    09/18/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: +1
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    09/18/09

    @Tomsk welcomes the Jezebanned home: +1 for each usage of the word "turd".
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    Image of dgduris dgduris
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Farago was great! Is, actually.

    He stirred the pot and got folks thinking beyond whether GM or ChryCo should survive (the market decided that though the Presidents - neither - were free market-types).

    I wonder how many commenters here actually read his stuff.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    09/19/09

    @dgduris: All of the commenters that have been here for the last three or four years are quite familiar with Farago. Many of us have even been banned from his former website!

    He doesn't take well to people who disagree with him.
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    Edited by danio3834 at 09/19/09 8:45 AM danio3834 was starred danio3834 was unstarred
    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Wow.

    Watching that makes me kinda glad they killed TGUSA.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    09/18/09

    @Mad_Science: Boom goes the dynamite?
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Ray Wert, to a white courtesy telephone please, Ray Wert.

    /just checking
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    I have respect for Farago for not going down a more typical auto-reviewing path. He made a point to be independent and call out any and all parties when he thought they were lacking integrity.

    He was right about GM and Chrysler (to an extent), but his insistence on rooting for their demise made it seem like more of a "broken clock, twice a day" thing.

    Too often he confused being independent and honest about one's opinions with just being a prick. He'd spew vitriol because his well-tended flock of loyal commenters (just try to post a counter-point over there) would sing his praises every time he whiticized about the plastics on a Chrysler interior or that Bob Lutz is an evil evil man.

    ...and that's the problem when you're a prick. It doesn't matter if you're right, you're still a prick.
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    Image of DaveM. DaveM.
    09/18/09

    @Mad_Science:

    I've posted many counter-points there. As long as you remained, civil, non-flaming/trolling, and brought an intelligent comment he had no problem with it. Just read through his Take Two series...alternative car reviews to the main ones posted.
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    09/18/09

    @DaveM.: I'm not saying he always deletes the counter-points, but the level of censorship (for lack of a better term) was higher it should've been.
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    Image of Mike Austin Mike Austin
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Now he can go back to begging the buff books for work.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    Wonder how long it'll be before he's submitting articles on spec to Jalopnik?
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    Image of Illini300C Illini300C
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    It was only a matter of time. Looks like "GM" managed to outlive Farago.
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    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    I used to love TTAC, and couldn't wait for another witty review to come out there. Then the reviews seemed to get toned down and blander. then they added writers who didn't share their style, then they got away from the reviews and into more "Farago rants because Autoblog doesn't mention that Mazda bought them a McFlurry when they reviewed the 3".
    I haven't read it regularly in a few years, and don't miss it. Though every once in a while I'll go back and read the Scion xB & xB2 & Bristol reviews. Just for old times' sake.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    I've been reading TTAC for a while and it appears that their owners have been unhappy with the finances. Several months ago, TTAC was talking about going to a subscription-based model where "premium" content such as special articles and the ability to comment required payment. Sort of like Jalopnik Gold, except for real. As far as I know, they haven't implemented the subsciptions, but it seems that the problems persist.

    TTAC has always been a little bitter, strident, and snippy - as if they want to be the Air America of the auto blogosphere. Often it reads like the authors (and sometimes commentators) have axes to grind. I read it along with Jalopnik, Autoblog, and a few other blogs, but I've never really wanted to participate there.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09/18/09

    @tonyola: If Air America is bitter, strident, and snippy, what the hell would you call people of the other side (the ultra right wing talking heads like Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingram, and Beck)?
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    09/18/09

    @UDMan: Bitter, strident, and snippy. Vitriol and mean-spiritedness in the guise of virtue is unpleasant on either side.
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    09/18/09

    In reply to TTAC Death Watch: Robert Farago Splits From The Truth About Cars
    This guy is a first rate self-important asshat. He doesn't know the first thing about business, yet always wants to comment on financials, etc of the domestics. Keep you worthless opinion to cars, which I don't think you know much about either.

    Maybe that site will be worth a visit now.

    Oh, and finding he drives a lady-porsche (if it's even his) is no surprise.
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