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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    Keep you damn slushboxes out of my "sports" cars, please? What do you want me to do, take up smoking just to give my left foot something to do?
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    Image of DoogieFullHouser DoogieFullHouser
    11/30/09

    @Turboner: Thinks... Yes, yes I do!

    -Hands free cigarette-
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    günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi promoted this comment DoogieFullHouser was starred DoogieFullHouser was unstarred
    Image of chrystlubitshi still güntered and dieseling chrystlubitshi still güntered and dieseling
    11/30/09

    @DoogieFullHouser: good for her and all.. but wow.. i don't think i needed to see that...............
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    As a fussy bastard, I'm starting to take issue with most reviews of sports cars I ever read, and how they are drivers cars etc. etc. etc.

    Yeah, they are, compared to an Infiniti or something, and I've not driven the 370z. But I have driven the 350, and;

    The thing is, the limits are too damned high. There's loads of grip. Theres good weight distribution and masses of power. But unless you're really damn good (and I'm probably not) you don't really get involved other than aiming the car and pressing go.

    Personally speaking, and I know I'm probably wrong here, a Drivers Car is one where you can feel the limits and know what to do when you reach them. Like an old Capri or Ford Mustang. Primitive suspension. Skinny tyres and too much power for the chassis.

    That's where the fun is. Getting a "Whoa" moment at 60 and knowing how to catch it.

    In this, I just know any "Whoa" moment would see me doing a Nick Hogan.

    Give Nick a TR6 or a '68 Vette and maybe he'll learn something. Stick him in a Lambo with immense grip and power, and the soft tissue behind the helm starts to be a big problem.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: We've addressed that concern with the Z a couple of times, first in Matt's review:

    [jalopnik.com]

    Then in mine:

    [jalopnik.com]

    And I think it's a totally valid criticism. Luckily, there's an affordable, practical solution. Just buy a Hyundai Genesis Coupe, it makes all the same moves as the Z, but its limits are lower so it's more fun to drive in everyday conditions and for a wider range of drivers.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Oh, and here's that Gen Coupe story:

    [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @Wes Siler: Yeah, I read them, i'm totally with you and not hatin' or nuttin.

    I just think it's a shame so many people have forgotten what driving is all about.

    Keep up the good work by the way!
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Oh, how I agree with you. Friends with powerful and capable sports cars or luxosport sedans laugh at me when I tell them how much fun I had with a CRX, but they just don't understand. It was like driving a comfortable and rain-proof go-kart. Every outing was an adventure and a potential test of the car's ability. Light weight and not having scads of reserve power meant I was able to drive at 7/10 or 8/10 in conditions where the 370Z might be at 3/10. I learned all about what the limits of the CRX were. My friends will probably not get the chance to do the same in their ubercars.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @tonyola: Yep, I had an old Rover. Heavy, didn't handle, wasn't fast. And I had so much fun as it was at 8/10 pretty much the whole time.

    In fact you needed some skill to keep the damn thing pointing the right way.
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    Image of brick-geek brick-geek
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I know what you mean. I love my S60R. It is a wonderfully refined daily driver and can be sporty in advanced mode. However, I am just not comfortable pushing her to the limit. Maybe on a track somewhere, but certainly not on a public road.
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    Rust-MyEnemy promoted this comment brick-geek was starred brick-geek was unstarred
    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I agree. And I think that is a problem even with entry cars that new drivers are likely to own. A Ford Focus can probably out-handle many a 1980's sports car (that'd be a fun comparison article). So drivers just think they can go as fast as their engines will propel them and they only have to turn the wheel (like a lot of SUV drivers in the snow). Older, slower cars are way more fun because they keep you thinking about what the car is trying to do. Cars with super high limits scare me because I think I won't know I'm in over my head until I'm going much faster. I'll take 'em old and low-adhesion, thanks.

    Fantastic car and nice write up though.
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    Rust-MyEnemy promoted this comment SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/30/09

    With that kind of waist and that kind of price (up to $46K!!!) you'd think they'd splurge on a convertible hardtop.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R): It's just as well our friendly 'Lopnik scribblers seem to be able to drive a bit, and the write-ups are always worth reading.

    I'd love to see a few reviews of older cars, just to get a bit of context. What does a SVO Mustang feel like compared to a Genesis Coupe? That sort of thing.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @brick-geek: Hell of a car, the S60R. Anything that builds on the T5 legend is awesome, and a bit of understeer is fine in the right hands..
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    12/01/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I think that would be great. Like a 2L Alfa GTV vs mid-90's Sentra SE-R vs ... hmmm well, some small-ish fun 2-door sedan from today... maybe a 1-series? I always remember when Grassroots Motorsports put a Honda Odyssey minivan on an autocross course and compared it to a 365 and an E-type. It lost at first but they put some better tires on it and the minivan beat 'em both.
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    Edited by SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) at 12/01/09 9:38 AM SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    It's nice to know that it drives and performs well, but I just can't get over the oddball looks it is sporting, and this is coming from a guy who likes the looks of the original 350Z coupes.
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    Image of Jeremy Jeremy
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    It looks really nice. Though I liked the last Z Roadster, too.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    Did they have to stop at the duty free shop and pick up the Euro plugs?
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    It's been a hard day's night
    And we've been rolling 'round Frankfurt show
    It's been a hard day's night
    And we are now charging, so damned slow
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    Mobius was starred Mobius was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    I hope Tesla owners realise the error of their plan after the sign that is the financiapocalypse. The failing of banks prove that the middlemen in the transfer of funds, or in the case of the Roadster, energy, is greedy and sucks away at the efficiency, and occasionally cause a breakdown of the entire system.
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    With so much drama in the T-E-L-S-A
    Its kinda hard bein Elon M-usk-A
    But i, somehow, some way
    Keep comin up with funky ass vapor-ware like every single day
    May i, kick a little something for the greenies (yeah)
    And, make a few ends as (yeah!) I breeze, through
    Two in the mornin and the cars still chargin’
    Cause my big charge station is still at home
    I got investors in the living room gettin it on
    And, they aint leavin til they see a profit in the mornin (proit in the mornin)
    So what you wanna do, sheeeit
    I got a pocket full of shares and my suckers do too
    So turn off the lights and close the doors
    But (but what) we dont love them investors, yeah!
    So we gonna blow smoke up their ass to this
    Gs up, profits down, while you motherfuckers bounce to this

    Chorus:
    Sittin on the street, smokin indo, sippin on watts and juice
    Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]
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    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    09/17/09

    @lilwillie hides autos in the attic: This is why you have a start and a heart. It took me until line three to get into the flow but get there I did.

    Have you heard the version done by the Gourds? I couldn't find any good videos of it but this one has the best sound.

    Now where did I put my juice cup...
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    lilwillie hides autos in the attic promoted this comment Joshuman was starred Joshuman was unstarred
    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    09/17/09

    @Joshman Raffles Avenue:

    I had heard it, but never had seen them so thanks for the treat and the video!
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    Were they actually being driven in the show? It's not like the batteries drain significantly from sitting overnight.

    Actually, that sounds like a great idea - use Teslas to get around the exhibits! That would be way cooler than these dorky things.

    [cache.gawker.com]
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    09/17/09

    @Leeeeena a Jalopchick: Not at the show, but they were out around the halls. At least as far as I could tell from occasional glimpses out windows.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    09/17/09

    @Leeeeena a Jalopchick: Or do it like some editor a while ago and tool around with a Chinese CEO in a BYD.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    09/17/09

    @Leeeeena a Jalopchick: I think someone left the glove box open for about thirty minutes and the little light extinguished the battery.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    09/17/09

    In reply to It's a Hard Day's Night for Tesla Roadsters
    Isn't a portable power station more easily described as a gas-powered generator?

    So much easier when that's built in...and stays with the car...so it's always ready when you want it...

    I wonder if anybody's doing that already with that sweet little chassis. You could even skip the electric drivetrain that way. That'd cut a lot of unnecessary weight out. That'd be greeeaaat.
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    Edited by Elhigh at 09/17/09 10:42 AM Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    09/17/09

    @Elhigh: That would be... too easy!
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    09/17/09


    @Elhigh:
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    09/17/09

    @Elhigh: Elhigh, yeeeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday to work out the details or your - err - our plan. Yeeeah.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    09/15/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Reventón Roadster Shows Off That $1.6 Million Body
    I'm going to Italy next year with my wife.

    I'm going to get in trouble I just know it.
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    skaycog - Got Beer? promoted this comment Quattro-luvr was starred Quattro-luvr was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/15/09

    @Quattro-luvr: Multiple choice.

    1. Don't go to Italy.
    2. Don't take your wife.
    3. Wear blinders.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    09/15/09

    @skaycog - Got Beer?: How big are those blinders?
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/15/09


    @Quattro-luvr: Will these work? No need to thank me....that's what friends are for. ;)
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    09/15/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Reventón Roadster Shows Off That $1.6 Million Body
    The shot with #15 and 16, the rear is a little flat but not that bad.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    09/15/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Reventón Roadster Shows Off That $1.6 Million Body
    You guys probably won't believe me, but if you look at some of these pics for long enough, there are girls in them. I'm serious!
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    09/15/09

    @Ash78: Yep, 1.6mil gets you one of three options: 4 Bulgarians/2 Czechs/1 Italian.
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    Image of Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car!
    09/14/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Reventón Roadster Debuts Amid A Bevy Of Booth Professionals
    Whoever buys that car needs a kick in the face. $1.3m could buy you a garage full of super-rare classic muscle cars.
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    HoonThatFerrari promoted this comment Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! was starred Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/15/09

    EDIT: Oooops! Apologies - don't know what happened... got an incomplete thread reply there... can moderators delete this post for the sake of clarity? If so, Thanks.
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 09/15/09 12:29 AM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/15/09

    @Psiu! Puxa! drinks unleaded and craps valve seats: Yes, I'll take a Miura, plus something new more & reliable (like an E-Class, for example) for that kind of money.

    Or maybe a Miura, a C-Class or 3-Series, plus a new house... depending on the price of the Miura find.

    Or the right Miura find, a 3-Series, a new house, and a date with Megan Fox.

    Somewhere in there is the right combination.
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 09/15/09 12:16 AM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    09/14/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Reventón Roadster Debuts Amid A Bevy Of Booth Professionals
    From Merriam-Webster:
    "a large group or collection [a bevy of girls]"

    despite the fact that they use "a bevy of girls" as an example two girls does not constitute a bevy. They pay you to know this stuff, Hardigree.
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    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    09/14/09

    @Mad_Science: Can you say a bevy of boobies?
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    Mad_Science promoted this comment Timtoolman, sporadically speaking was starred Timtoolman, sporadically speaking was unstarred
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    09/14/09

    @Timtoolman, still looking for work.: Probably not while I'm still at work.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/14/09

    @Mad_Science: ***two girls does not constitute a bevy***

    How about a millibevy?
    Perhaps a semidemibevy?
    Or maybe: √bevy?
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 09/14/09 9:02 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car!
    09/14/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: Math joke FTL. Don't lord your middle-school math skills over me, sir!
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    HoonThatFerrari promoted this comment Edited by Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! at 09/14/09 10:11 PM Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! was starred Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/14/09

    @Psiu! Puxa! drinks unleaded and craps valve seats:
    Middle-school? Did I even make it that far? I don't recall, as by that age I was too busy contemplating my yet-to-be-published Theory of Bevytivity.

    I warn you, Psiu - don't Puxa me, else I might be forced to unleash my entire writings on the Laws of Bevynertia on you!

    And let me tell you, that would be REALLLLLY boring!
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 09/14/09 10:45 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
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