"I was stunned by the suggestion that the government, GM's only source of fresh capital, was somehow out of bounds for asking for the resignation of a CEO who had lost $13 billion of taxpayer money in three months and was now asking for more."
Why all the hate for what this guy had to say. After reading the article it gave me the idea that there were no good options.
He wasnt a car guy.......so what. Have you seen the crap that those 2 companies produced? If there are many car guys there in management I'd be amazed. So the guy also pointed out that besides having no car guys they also had no businessmen.
Steve Rattner is an idiot, and I really don't think that it is a coincidence that he has the word "rat" in his name.
"Steve" is short for "Steven", which is an adaptation of the spelling of "Stephen". Depending on the source, the name "Stephen" roughly translates into "crowned one" or "crowned king".
So what should be the source of our QOTD? None other than the crowned king of rats.
I'm not going to sit here and defend the poltroonery of previous generations of GM management or the UAW. But, by the same token, I'm not going to place any faith in Steve Rattner.
I realize that he makes a few fair points, and I will give him that. But his gross hyperbole, utter failure to understand simple economic realities, utter lack of marketing perception, blatant bias fed by ignorance, and other tomfoolery reveal him to be the moron that he is.
He has no place being the "car czar". Being able to mouth off and point out flaws will only get you so far. At some point, someone has to start pointing out solution, and Rattner is not the man for that job. He needs to take his shenanigans and hyperbole and shove it where the sun don't shine.
@pauljones: This might all be true, but it is undeniable that even the most uninformed of all blondes will recognize there is something seriously fucking wrong when you're re-branding the same minivan over four different brands. Minivans that have worst-in-class fuel economy figures, safety ratings, and are built on decade+ behind technology that wasn't even worth a damn when it was new. Oh the glorious 4spd./3.1/FWD combo that underpinned all of General Motor's compacts from the days of Aerostar to the days of Freestar. In case you didn't notice, that's a good 3 to 1 on Ford's part. Not that Ford wasn't making BFMs too, but it just puts into perspective how bad GM product management was and is.
In case you didn't catch it, I've had some bad experiences with the Chevrolet Venture. That single car made known everything that was wrong with GM, and the world.
Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 10/21/09 4:07 PM
that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred
that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
Oh, I'm saying they stick with one thing, and one thing only on the indefinite goal scale. Profit.
Other than maximizing profit, which includes minimizing cost, there is little which concerns how a corporation is operated. Yes, there is a balance, but it can be quite difficult to balance individual greed with corporate greed, as we've seen of late.
How this is done is typically quite variable and in many cases, inventive. Most of it is legal...some of it is questionable...and a percentage of it deserves its own special level of Hell.
Obviously, there comes a point at which short-term greed overcomes that whole lame-ass going concern thing...like with Bear Stearns, AIG, and the rest of the crooks.
When you are presented with "X" number of items, none of which may be particularly good, the prevailing logic is to pick the least-sucky of what is available. Sure, not all of these items are necessary, but many make life easier enough to warrant purchase.
What we have is a very limited number of carnivals in town. I do my best to buy tickets wisely. Price is not the ultimate determiner in my choices. Hence, Bosch/Beck/Moog parts for my aging Benzo rather than Γro/Whamco. #steverattner
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Ok baby, we got to hurry, I don't know how long I can keep it ready for you.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: thats ok. ok i'm a japanese schoolgirl, what r u.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: A Rhinocerus. Well, hung like one, thats for sure.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: haha, ok lets go.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: i put my hand through ur hair, and kiss u on the neck.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: I stomp the ground, and snort, to alert you that you are in my breeding territory.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: haha, ok, u know that turns me on.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: i start unbuttoning ur shirt.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't wear shirts.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: No, ur not really a Rhinocerus silly, it's just part of the game.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't play games. They f*cking charge your ass.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: stop, cmon be serious.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: It doesn't get any more serious than a Rhinocerus about to charge your ass.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: I stomp my feet, the dust stirs around my tough skinned feet.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: thats it.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Goddam am I hard now.
Obama (who now goes by the name Steve Rattner) ordered Wagoner to step down! Socialism, I say, communism! Damn democratic dictator! Anarchy! Panarchy! Annie get your gun!
Wait so hold on, was Slick Rick asked to step down by the Pres. or some dude on his task force? The title of the post says one thing and then the text in the post says the other. Task force lackey =/= U.S Pres.
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No f'ing shit. #steverattner
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He wasnt a car guy.......so what. Have you seen the crap that those 2 companies produced? If there are many car guys there in management I'd be amazed. So the guy also pointed out that besides having no car guys they also had no businessmen.
Big surprise there. #steverattner
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"Steve" is short for "Steven", which is an adaptation of the spelling of "Stephen". Depending on the source, the name "Stephen" roughly translates into "crowned one" or "crowned king".
So what should be the source of our QOTD? None other than the crowned king of rats.
I'm not going to sit here and defend the poltroonery of previous generations of GM management or the UAW. But, by the same token, I'm not going to place any faith in Steve Rattner.
I realize that he makes a few fair points, and I will give him that. But his gross hyperbole, utter failure to understand simple economic realities, utter lack of marketing perception, blatant bias fed by ignorance, and other tomfoolery reveal him to be the moron that he is.
He has no place being the "car czar". Being able to mouth off and point out flaws will only get you so far. At some point, someone has to start pointing out solution, and Rattner is not the man for that job. He needs to take his shenanigans and hyperbole and shove it where the sun don't shine.
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In case you didn't catch it, I've had some bad experiences with the Chevrolet Venture. That single car made known everything that was wrong with GM, and the world.
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"We're a forward-thinking company..."
Yeah, thinking about how to maximize profit...indefinitely...and at any cost.
The shortest university course ever constructed? Corporate Ethics.
There are none...class over.
/bitter about the never-ending bullshit generator which is the American Corporate Machine
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Oh, I'm saying they stick with one thing, and one thing only on the indefinite goal scale. Profit.
Other than maximizing profit, which includes minimizing cost, there is little which concerns how a corporation is operated. Yes, there is a balance, but it can be quite difficult to balance individual greed with corporate greed, as we've seen of late.
How this is done is typically quite variable and in many cases, inventive. Most of it is legal...some of it is questionable...and a percentage of it deserves its own special level of Hell.
Obviously, there comes a point at which short-term greed overcomes that whole lame-ass going concern thing...like with Bear Stearns, AIG, and the rest of the crooks.
/going concern sarcasm
@Neener:
When you are presented with "X" number of items, none of which may be particularly good, the prevailing logic is to pick the least-sucky of what is available. Sure, not all of these items are necessary, but many make life easier enough to warrant purchase.
What we have is a very limited number of carnivals in town. I do my best to buy tickets wisely. Price is not the ultimate determiner in my choices. Hence, Bosch/Beck/Moog parts for my aging Benzo rather than Γro/Whamco. #steverattner
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Rattner: First you show me yours, and then, I show you mine.
Wagoner: Why do I have to go first?
Rattner: Because I called it.
Wagoner: Oh. Okay.
Rattner: Well... I'm waiting.
Wagoner: Alright, relax. It's just that I don't want to go first.
Rattner: We already said you're going first. I called it.
Wagoner: So what do I do again?
Rattner: You go first.
Wagoner: Right, right. Okay.
Rattner: Well......
Wagoner: I'm going, I'm going. But, how do I know after I go, you'll go?
Rattner: Because I said I would.
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Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: thats ok. ok i'm a japanese schoolgirl, what r u.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: A Rhinocerus. Well, hung like one, thats for sure.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: haha, ok lets go.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: i put my hand through ur hair, and kiss u on the neck.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: I stomp the ground, and snort, to alert you that you are in my breeding territory.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: haha, ok, u know that turns me on.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: i start unbuttoning ur shirt.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't wear shirts.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: No, ur not really a Rhinocerus silly, it's just part of the game.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't play games. They f*cking charge your ass.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: stop, cmon be serious.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: It doesn't get any more serious than a Rhinocerus about to charge your ass.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: I stomp my feet, the dust stirs around my tough skinned feet.
Rick Wagoner aka j_gurli3: thats it.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn.
Steve Rattner aka bloodninja: Goddam am I hard now.
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Obama (who now goes by the name Steve Rattner) ordered Wagoner to step down! Socialism, I say, communism! Damn democratic dictator! Anarchy! Panarchy! Annie get your gun!
DAMN YOU, XENU, DAMN YOU!!!!!!!
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Rattner: "Hey, I know this is awkward...but...we're gonna have to talk.."
Wagoner: "Uhm...yeah. About what?"
Rattner: "There's just something I've been thinking about for awhile...just something about us..."
Wagoner: "Oh no."
Rattner: "No, no. Its not you, Rick. Its us. Its me. Its just that we've been growing apart these last couple years."
Wagoner: "I...er...guess. Yeah. ...I promised myself I wouldn't cry when this happened. I never thought you'd hurt me like this."
Rattner: "Shhh...there there, baby. Here's 50 billion dollars for GM. And you'll be all the pension money you're entitlted to!
Wagoner: (Drying eyes sheepishly) "Really? You mean it, Stevie?" You promise?"
Rattner: "...Sure. Anything for you, Ricky. I promise. Cross my heart and hope to die."
Wagoner: (Sniffles) "Thanks. I feel alot better. I think I need some time alone."
Rattner: "Just...one more thing..."
Wagoner: "Yeah?"
Rattner: "You have a tiny penis and I faked all my orgasms. Wanna get ice cream?"
Fin.
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