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    Image of Heftyjo Heftyjo
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    What the hell was the point! Not a single person or horse was crushed by a trolley car. Hell no one even get hit with a baseball bat in the nads. They ain't got nuttin on America's funniest videos.

    Plus, the Rice o' Roni lyrics really don't seem to sync with the back beat of the sound track all too well.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Aren't you neglecting the earthquake that preceded the fire?

    And a points deduct for a soundtrack that's not period correct
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    Image of superveloce superveloce
    11/25/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Are you kidding? The soundtrack is perfect!
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment superveloce was starred superveloce was unstarred
    Image of OM617952 OM617952
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    MY EARS! Why did they put that "mosquito noise" in the background?
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    Image of KillerBRacer KillerBRacer
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    That video and accompaniment totally reset my week. Reminds me of how they would play "Cristo Redentor" every morning on KZAP back in the day, and I would fly through the streets in my dreams as I slowly woke up. One of the cooler posts you've had in a while, thanks!
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    this is so rad. though it's easy to think life back then was so perfect since we don't see the prostitutes and the opium dens.

    I was kind of shocked or something to see a guy riding a horse down the street with all the cars. It was weird for some reason. What did he think of cars?

    I loved the guttersnipes hanging on the back of the car!

    What is the tall building seen at the end of the road?

    Someone needs to do a remake of this film.
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    Image of kingofthering does not think you'll hover your pointer over this to read the whole thing kingofthering does not think you'll hover your pointer over this to read the whole thing
    11/25/09

    @FrankGrimes: That would be the lovely Ferry Building.

    I don't think you'd like to see a remake of this film, unless you like to see shuttered businesses and hobos lining the street.
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/25/09

    @kingofthering gets off on witholding.: I don't mind bums. I grew up in the bay area and Berkley was a favorite hangout.

    #tips
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    Image of 68Fastback 68Fastback
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Watching this makes me feel a lot less cynical about the way people drive today. I mean, at least now traffic is split into lanes, and people drive more or less in an intended direction and at somewhat similar speeds. The apparently random flow of vehicles and pedestrians looks downright bewildering, or would at least call for a lot more attentiveness. And I'm glad I don't have to deal with a soup of pedestrians, horse carts, bicyclists, street cars, and automobiles.

    Then again, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Gotta love the guy with the big ol' horse-drawn wagon pulling right into the path of the street car, never once giving a look or, apparently, a damn that he's cutting someone off.
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    Edited by 68Fastback at 11/25/09 12:00 PM 68Fastback was starred 68Fastback was unstarred
    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    That video is really cool.

    The things I find fascinating about this video:
    -The clothing... lots of hats, lots of suits, no jeans. There didn't seem to be such a thing as "casual" clothing.
    -more cars than I would have expected
    -people causally going anywhere and everywhere and because of the slower pace of the cars and trolleys, it didn't matter.
    -hardly any women out in the street... I saw more horses than women.
    -More cyclists than women too!
    -Even back then you can see that cars were the fastest... horses the slowest.
    -Lots of walking and running. People seemed to be a hell of a lot less cautious than they are today.

    This video makes me wish I could take a vacation back in time and be on that trolley and experience the sights and smells.
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    Image of falnfenix falnfenix
    11/25/09

    @petersterncan:
    - no, they didn't have casual clothing in the sense that we have today. they had formalwear and day-to-day clothing, however.
    - agreed, but this is a bustling city.
    - indeed. it would be a nice change to live in a place where one isn't likely to get run over by a passing car.
    - back then, a woman's place was in the home.
    - see above comment.
    - horses walk at about the same pace as people. naturally, cars will be a hair faster than this, even back then. i don't know if a horse's top sustainable speed is faster than those cars, though.
    - people were also in a hell of a lot better shape.

    agreed. let's find Doc Brown and go back 100 years.
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    FrankGrimes promoted this comment falnfenix was starred falnfenix was unstarred
    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/25/09

    @falnfenix:One site says a fast horse can do 50mph over short distances and another site said 1905 Ford can do a top speed of 45mph.
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    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    11/25/09

    @falnfenix: "- indeed. it would be a nice change to live in a place where one isn't likely to get run over by a passing car"

    Actually I know of TWO such places... Venice, Italy and also the houses that are on the Toronto Islands.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    I bet personal injury lawyers wish they had a time machine after watching this.
    Becker Law Firm to the rescue.
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    Novaload promoted this comment Edited by Quattro-luvr at 11/25/09 10:27 AM Quattro-luvr was starred Quattro-luvr was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    So many lessons. There must have been an enormous number of deaths and injuries with the random movements of horses, cars, pedestrians, bicycles, streetcars--amazing. Second, we also see the boredom level, pre-tv and internets, that led people to behave like deranged roadrunners and challenge the streetcars. Third, no vehicle inspections meant you could have as big a wagon as your team could pull and it would gently sway and creel in a cartoonish way.

    I am glad these old films are being restored. here is one from 1908, where people were aware of the filming and Barcelona --as is probably still true--doesn't have as many huge horseless carriages:
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    Image of Jon Jon
    11/25/09

    @Novaload: Judging from the kids in the San Francisco film, I'd say they knew that a motion picture camera was in use there, too. You can see the kids running out in front of the trolly while looking directly at the camera, similar to the Barcelona film.

    Thanks for the Barcelona film...that's pretty cool.
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    Novaload promoted this comment Jon was starred Jon was unstarred
    Image of B1663R B1663R
    11/25/09

    @Novaload: So many lessons. There must have been an enormous number of deaths and injuries with the random movements of horses, cars, pedestrians, bicycles, streetcars--amazing. yes, then the men with safety glasses took over... downhill ever since
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    Image of jfruh jfruh
    11/25/09

    @Novaload: There must have been an enormous number of deaths and injuries with the random movements of horses, cars, pedestrians, bicycles, streetcars--amazing.

    Actually, there were probably a lot fewer accidents than you might assume. The constant presence of random people and vehicles in the roadway caused drivers to be a lot more vigilant and drive a lot more slowly -- this film is a bit slowed down, but I'm guessing nobody on this street is going more than 15 or 20 miles an hour. The concept of "naked streets," where cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit vehicles mix in this way, is making a comback in city planning circles -- on streets that aren't intended to move auto traffic through on a rapid clip, it may actually be safer than roads that are signed at 35 mph but can sustain 50 mph.
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    Image of Pinkerton Proletariat Pinkerton Proletariat
    11/25/09

    @Novaload: Perhaps middle age is sneaking up on me, but I find it strange to watch a motion picture containing hundreds of people of all ages and know that 99.9% of them are deceased.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/25/09

    @Pinkerton Proletariat: Yeah--but I like to think of this one as looking back in time and all the nice people are waving at you! They're glad to see you! This is the land of Death---I mean, Spain!
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/25/09

    @Jon: Yeah, the camera couldn't exactly have been miniature back then.
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    Image of Maxximtl Maxximtl
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Here is the same trolley line filmed after the earthquake.

    [www.archive.org]
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    beercheck promoted this comment Maxximtl was starred Maxximtl was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/25/09

    @Maxximtl: Wow, that was so different--the way the people were moving and that only the horses are left--no cars, no streetcars. And of course the camera was clearly on a horse drawn wagon so you get the rhythmic motion of the horse as well.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Okay. Now. Name every car.

    Er.....one. Name one car.
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    Edited by beercheck at 11/25/09 10:01 AM beercheck was starred beercheck was unstarred
    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    11/25/09

    @beercheck: I'm betting there's a first gen Model A somewhere in there.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/25/09

    @LuciferV8: I'll take that bet. 1905!

    Oh. Wait.. TOTALLY forgot about that.

    I'll still take the bet.
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    Edited by beercheck at 11/25/09 12:32 PM beercheck was starred beercheck was unstarred
    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    11/25/09

    @beercheck: Yes, that's right- the first one, before they reset the letter count. From 1903-1904, around 1,700 were made, so it's not unreasonable.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    I would like to hear this song more often on Sirius Chill. Their playlist has become sorta stagnant...
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    Image of Rodney McDonald Rodney McDonald
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    So, what's with the guy in the hat?
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    Novaload promoted this comment Rodney McDonald was starred Rodney McDonald was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/25/09

    @Rodney McDonald: LOL.
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    Image of Ayabe Ayabe
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Thanks for posting this, very nice way to start my day.
    Something that always creeps me out a little about these very old films is that every single person in them has now passed away. What were they doing? What were their names? Anyways, happy thanksgiving jalopers!
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    beercheck promoted this comment Ayabe was starred Ayabe was unstarred
    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/25/09

    @Ayabe: A boatload of them probably got killed the very next year.
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/25/09

    @Ayabe: Word.
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    FrankGrimes was starred FrankGrimes was unstarred
    Image of flyingstitch flyingstitch
    11/25/09

    In reply to 1905: San Francisco Has Always Been Chill
    Looks like one of those Third-World traffic cam videos, but with the cam also moving. I could watch this all day, soaking up new details. I've always wished I could travel through time.
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