Great post! Love to see what goes on behind the scenes...
The part hauler Romeo 2's engine: a two-stroke...diesel machine"...That sounds a bit like the TS3 that powered the Commer truck/bus platform and the fabled Ecurie Ecosse Jag race team transporter...altho I think it was supercharged and 6 pistons in 3 cylinders.
Same engine? Allfa & Commer, Italy & England? Sounds far-fetched but there can't be that many 2-stoke diesels out there...
Murilee, without you Jalopnik would be nothing but Camaraos and challengers and Mustangs. Hell, I love 1,000 HP insane cars as much as the next testosterone overloaded guy, but I'll take my sweet little underpowered ALFAs over a mullet machine any day.
PS - I know the New England LeMons ALFA teams personally. I'll tell you that you can inspect the shit outta them and you won't find any shenanigans. They're just under appreciated cars with next to no market value, well prepared and well driven.
This brings up something interesting, here in Long Beach, CA, last night while on a walk I discovered a house has a not one but two functional and complete Alfa Romeo Milanos (both black, naturally), but a fucking Lancia Delta HF Integrale-- that's right, the crazy, turbocharged, evil, AWD one.
There are people out there who lurk with weird and exotic cars like these parked nonchalantly on a lower-middle class house's driveway. Somehow I think a few of us are among those ranks, and it's quite possible the guy with the Integrale (with Florida plates) is among our ranks...Epic photos, Murilee.
Lets see, I'm free next Thursday aaannnd oh fuck it, I'm free any time. My mechanical skills could be pretty much summed up in two words, not and much.
I remember a while back there was this little brouhaha concerning a Miata team who showed up in a trailer with "Spec Miata" painted on the side. Something about how they were allegedly a bunch of ringers whose cars seemed to run a lot better than legitimate $500 cars could ever actually run.
Now fast forward to the next LeMons and what do we see? We see places two, three and four in a twenty-four hour race taken by 15-to-20-year-old Alfa Milanos.
And now we see this shop. Hmmm.
Now I'm not making any specific, concrete accusations, but in light of the fact the the MTBF of a new Milano was only about twenty-four hours in street-commuter use, I'd like to suggest that the hard-working BS Inspectors at the next LeMons should check the Alfa entries with perhaps a bit more care, a bit more skepticism.
@wkiernan: Yes,but it's like all the old unreliable cars - if they're still going ,it's because all the little things that can go wrong have been fixed.And the ahh..somewhat approximate new build quality issues have been resolved-this explains why some people have DOTS Triumph Stags,Rover P6s,MGBs and Citroens
@wkiernan: Think of it this way: when you bring a Miata to LeMons, you're pleading with us to go over it with a microscope. When you bring an Alfa, we might grumble a bit over those purty Webers or something, but you need to cheat pretty dramatically to get hammered with penalty laps (which has happened, as a certain 200-penalty-lap Alfa team whose name I need not mention can verify).
@wkiernan: Look closely at the Ecurie Ecrappe Alfa, and you'll see that, despite Conrad's amazing skills, it's a legitimate LeMon. And by "legitimate," I mean "falling apart at a horrifying rate." It's fast because it's far lighter than stock and because they have talented drivers, not because it's a cheater car.
And when I say I've been running into him, I mean that literally- bumped the Ecurie Ecrappe Alfa with the Black Metal V8olvo (not on purpose, very much unlike one of our drivers who need not be named here) at Altamont '08...
This man Conrad you speak of is obviously way cooler than I will ever be. It all leaves me a little speechless and feeling ashamed that I never saw the light like this guy obviously has.
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Tube chassis always get me hot and bothered. Throw in an Alfa Romeo engine (and a V8 at that!), and you've got a mess just waiting to happen (and I don't mean the car).
What a beautiful location, just stunning. But might be best to remove the cars so they can either be restored or harvested for usable parts. In an age where folks will rebuild a 'genuine' car from the one remaining original lug nut, there should be enough of interest here.
As for the pollution, there's probably plenty of gas, oil, brake fluid, antifreeze, asbestos, and miscellaneous heavy metals on or in the ground to give local environmental authorities conniptions. Paving over the land usually isn't so much about keeping contaminants from getting into the soil, as it is about keeping stuff already in the soil from being moved into the water supply by rains and snows seeping into the groundwater and making the contaminants migrate downhill.
I may just steal some of these photos for my holiday cards...
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The part hauler Romeo 2's engine: a two-stroke...diesel machine"...That sounds a bit like the TS3 that powered the Commer truck/bus platform and the fabled Ecurie Ecosse Jag race team transporter...altho I think it was supercharged and 6 pistons in 3 cylinders.
Same engine? Allfa & Commer, Italy & England? Sounds far-fetched but there can't be that many 2-stoke diesels out there...
07/20/09
@SeanKHotay answers his own question : Op, no. The Romeo's engine was a 2 cylinder...
http://www.alfastop.co.uk/romeo.htm
"And the diesels? After many conversations with those in the know in Italy, not one survivor has been heard of. "
Welp, we just heard of one. :)
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PS - I know the New England LeMons ALFA teams personally. I'll tell you that you can inspect the shit outta them and you won't find any shenanigans. They're just under appreciated cars with next to no market value, well prepared and well driven.
Alfa Romeo - Cuore Sportivo
07/19/09
There are people out there who lurk with weird and exotic cars like these parked nonchalantly on a lower-middle class house's driveway. Somehow I think a few of us are among those ranks, and it's quite possible the guy with the Integrale (with Florida plates) is among our ranks...Epic photos, Murilee.
Wish there was even more weirdness near me.
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But I've got style and enthusiasm!
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Now fast forward to the next LeMons and what do we see? We see places two, three and four in a twenty-four hour race taken by 15-to-20-year-old Alfa Milanos.
And now we see this shop. Hmmm.
Now I'm not making any specific, concrete accusations, but in light of the fact the the MTBF of a new Milano was only about twenty-four hours in street-commuter use, I'd like to suggest that the hard-working BS Inspectors at the next LeMons should check the Alfa entries with perhaps a bit more care, a bit more skepticism.
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Oh, and the man has not one, but TWO Alfa Giulia wagons. Harrison, arguably the world's luckiest shop dog, gets to ride around in style.
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And strangely, I want the Gulia wagon most of all.
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2. ???
3. Profit.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-alfa-romeo-spider_W0QQitemZ260444100419QQ...?hash=item3ca3ad9743&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1
or
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1232989905.html
Pick your poison!
(P.S. How do I make it into a cool link, like mm?)
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As for the pollution, there's probably plenty of gas, oil, brake fluid, antifreeze, asbestos, and miscellaneous heavy metals on or in the ground to give local environmental authorities conniptions. Paving over the land usually isn't so much about keeping contaminants from getting into the soil, as it is about keeping stuff already in the soil from being moved into the water supply by rains and snows seeping into the groundwater and making the contaminants migrate downhill.
I may just steal some of these photos for my holiday cards...
12/13/08
First, some of these look like underwater shots-they could hardly be any more encrusted.
Second, I think in the still of the night by the full moon you would hear and possibly see some very unusual things.
Third, someone at least save all the shiny bits!
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So, if the Dutch live in Holland, who lives in the Netherlands? And what's the deal with all the dikes?
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