@BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ: You know what's wrong. All the SUV's you just mentioned. The fact the Cayenne is now the best selling Porche makes me want to kick each Cayenne driver in the bollocks while showing them a picture of a 911. #renderedspeculation
@quayzar: Forced to replace sports car with SUV because of move to high altitude snowy climates + not wanting to lose semi-sports performance during times of nicer weather = I bought a Cayenne. Would I have preferred a 911? Yes. Did I settle? Yes. Am I sorry? Not really, it's a good set of wheels.
@merc6point9: I understand your choice, but it's contrary to the whole point of Jalopnik. The Cayenne isn't about passion, it's about compromise. It has no spirit, no personality. For the same price as your Cayenne, you could have picked up a WRX that does the same job, with cash left over, or do the sensible thing and get a beater 4x4 for icy, salty winter driving and drive an S2000, a Boxster or a Cayman (don't know your budget) in the summer. You might find either option unappealing, but it's how we think here.
Cars are at their best when they do one thing extremely well, be it nimble handling, quick acceleration, or off-road ability. That's what makes the driver remember why they love driving. If the Cayenne does that for you, well, good for you. I'll be in the old Hilux beside you.
@mrwumasta: Yeah, except that I needed something that can drive in more than 5 to 6 inches of uncleared snow, which a 4S cannot do. #renderedspeculation
@chathamh: Dude, I'm not new here and I'm not new to cars either. I disagree that my choice is contrary to the whole point of Jalopnik. This isn't a website dedicated solely to old cars, or to cars that only do one thing extremely well for that matter (el caminos anyone?).
Your response assumes a lot about my situation, including that I have space for multiple vehicles--and that I'd rather have an older everyday beater without the same creature comforts and safety features of a much newer car. If you want to run your old Hilux then that's awesome for you and I will happily salute you for it, just don't expect that every car nut wants to do the same.
As for spirit and personality, it's all about perspective I suppose. I don't know how much time you've spent driving Cayennes, but I think that to say it has NO spirit or personality is a bit overkill. It may not have the personality of a 911, but it sure as hell has more spirit and personality than a Highlander. It's also much faster, which I like. Because I'm a heathen. #renderedspeculation
@merc6point9: I'm promoting your thread for two reasons. First because you stick to your guns defending your ride, and because I kinda like the Cayenne too. #renderedspeculation
@merc6point9: You have a point and I am sorry for both posting something hateful and misspelled. That said you have to take into account that my complaint was aimed Cayenne drivers that are not in snowy climates like the one you happen to live in. For example if you live in Southern California you have no excuse to buy one (don't give me off roading as an excuse as you know that the tyres have no business off road) but if you honestly go out in the thick of it with a Cayenne then my hat is off to you as you maybe the first Cayenne owner in the world to drive one in bad weather. Most of the Cayennes locally have never seen more than a light rain on a cold day. Most Cayenne owners I know or know of drive their more snow friendly or cheaper cars in the snow and there by give up the whole point to owning a Cayenne in the first place. If you only drive a Cayenne on nice days then why did you not just buy a damn 911 then. Again that last comment wasn't aimed at you but the rest of the people that only drive them to the local Whole Foods or soccer practice. #renderedspeculation
@quayzar: I fully agree with you. If I lived somewhere that inclement weather was not an issue then I would not have bought a Cayenne. In fact, I never even considered it until I had to move to snowier climes. Unfortunately I think it's overlooked as a good vehicle because people get snooty about the badge. #renderedspeculation
That's a whole lot of ugly all in one place. Way too may overwrought, disjointed themes and moves all jammed together. It's enough to make you think that a successful design might include none of the things shown. #renderedspeculation
Meh. It's as good as any design hurled by some kid with a rendering program.
I didn't mind the idea of a Maserati Kubang back in the pre-Quattroporte days. But if they're ever going to venture into hatchbacks, they should just build Bellagios and Cinqueportes. #renderedspeculation
I think that we have already seen what a Maserati SUV might look like with the Maserati Kubang concept from a couple of years back. #renderedspeculation
@pauljones: Andrey Trofimchuk's maiden name is "Ng", but didn't want to overpersonalise it, so he knocked off those last two letters to make it "Kuba." #renderedspeculation
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My god that thing looks ugly and awesome at the same time. It should totally come with this #renderedspeculation
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Also, not to gripe, but there's an S in Porsche. #renderedspeculation
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Cars are at their best when they do one thing extremely well, be it nimble handling, quick acceleration, or off-road ability. That's what makes the driver remember why they love driving. If the Cayenne does that for you, well, good for you. I'll be in the old Hilux beside you.
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Your response assumes a lot about my situation, including that I have space for multiple vehicles--and that I'd rather have an older everyday beater without the same creature comforts and safety features of a much newer car. If you want to run your old Hilux then that's awesome for you and I will happily salute you for it, just don't expect that every car nut wants to do the same.
As for spirit and personality, it's all about perspective I suppose. I don't know how much time you've spent driving Cayennes, but I think that to say it has NO spirit or personality is a bit overkill. It may not have the personality of a 911, but it sure as hell has more spirit and personality than a Highlander. It's also much faster, which I like. Because I'm a heathen. #renderedspeculation
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One of the main problems with this is it looks absolutely nothing like a Maserati.
Looks more like an anglerfish (at least in the front.)
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@bmoreDLJ: I thought we all decided that the Mantide looked like an anglerfish. Well. It's at least as ugly as one. #renderedspeculation
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Meh. It's as good as any design hurled by some kid with a rendering program.
I didn't mind the idea of a Maserati Kubang back in the pre-Quattroporte days. But if they're ever going to venture into hatchbacks, they should just build Bellagios and Cinqueportes. #renderedspeculation
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Where have I seen that before? #renderedspeculation
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I think that we have already seen what a Maserati SUV might look like with the Maserati Kubang concept from a couple of years back. #renderedspeculation
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Otherwise, it looks kinda like a pug.
The ass is gonna look a bit goofy with the required mud flaps/splash guards.
I can't help but see some Crossfire in it, too, which is rarely a good thing. #renderedspeculation
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@send lawyers, guns, and money: To me, it looks like an Infiniti FX35 with a Rocketeer body kit. #renderedspeculation
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Coves? check
Rounded lead edge to hood? check
Wraparound windshield? check
Ovoid grille opening, with a hint of dagmar? check
Give it a third box and some fins and it's good to go. #renderedspeculation
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