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    GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper

    Caption This: F/A-18 Hornet Flyby Edition

    GM Offered Tax Free Zone To Stay In Detroit

    GM May Consider Move From Detroit, Leave City Motor-Less

    GM's Renaissance Center HQ: View From The Top

    Pension Board Blinks As GM Seeks $500 Million For RenCen Refinance

    GM Attempting To Refinance HQ, Threatening To Sell Renaissance Center?

    Hotel In GM's Renaissance Center To Get $15 Million Bathroom Renovations

    Breaking Even: CNBC's Phil LeBeau "Causes" Accident In Front Of GM World Headquarters!

    Hey, GM — There's Free Ice Cream Downstairs!
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    Image of my favorite car is a motorcycle my favorite car is a motorcycle
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    oh my, what a great plan - keep the remaining overhead dead wood, fire the last & most experienced production staff, find minimum wage slaves to assemble parts in a location where fewer bathroom breaks are necessary and "on-the-job safety" means you've paid off the local warlord/gang/political party/government thugs.

    Let's just hope that some real engineers & car buffs stay in Michigan and start up shop for themselves, building great cars instead of "units" that depreciate faster than ice in the Sahara.
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    bzr promoted this comment my favorite car is a motorcycle was starred my favorite car is a motorcycle was unstarred
    Image of dratko dratko
    10/06/09

    @my favorite car is a motorcycle: As an engineer I would never work for GM. Japanese ,German, and even Ford show signs of a reasonable compromises or even discussions between the accountants and engineers. GM is controlled by the government, unions, and accountants. They had always (last 15 years) been a financing company who happened to make cars(then they sold GMAC).
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    HoonThatFerrari promoted this comment dratko was starred dratko was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    10/06/09

    @dratko: You have the right premise, but are incorrect on a technicality... they were actually an HMO that happened to build cars.
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    Image of HiramJahoovafat HiramJahoovafat
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Wasn't the Pentastar Mall supposed to be opening soon?
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have promoted this comment HiramJahoovafat was starred HiramJahoovafat was unstarred
    Image of roaduscarnivorous roaduscarnivorous
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    cheaper than detroit? where???
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    MushyHeirloom promoted this comment roaduscarnivorous was starred roaduscarnivorous was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/06/09

    @roaduscarnivorous: Toledo? Gary? Mogadishu?
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    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Adding distance between management and the people who work with the people who screw the cars together is never a good thing. Impromptu hallway conversations are important. IM and phone calls help but they are not a substitute.
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment Joshuman was starred Joshuman was unstarred
    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    10/06/09

    @Joshman Junção: The GM Ren-Cen has never been/ never will be the place where people developed and screwed together cars. Warren Tech Center has always been the place for product development.

    RenCen has always been full of paper pushers and the top clap trap management.
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    Image of LS1RX7owen LS1RX7owen
    10/06/09

    @Joshman Junção: maybe GM will employ on-the-job-tweeting?
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    bzr promoted this comment LS1RX7owen was starred LS1RX7owen was unstarred
    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    10/06/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: I didn't imagine any actual screwing happened there (unless you include the kind that does not involve a #2 Phillips). I was thinking that there was a middle-management level that spent time in the factories and in the corporate meeting rooms. It's those people who really run a company. Adding more distance between them and their two poles is not good.
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    Image of wojo-The Defective Psyience Detective: wojo-The Defective Psyience Detective:
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    I'm not surprised that they're staying at the RenCen-where else are they going to find enough room to house all twelve of their remaining employees?
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    MushyHeirloom promoted this comment wojo-The Defective Psyience Detective: was starred wojo-The Defective Psyience Detective: was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/06/09

    @wojo to Ford-Awesome SHO, Great Job!: You J) are hung like a moose!: It's not the employees that take up that much room, it's their egos.
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    Edited by MushyHeirloom at 10/06/09 3:57 PM MushyHeirloom was starred MushyHeirloom was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    There are plenty of empty dealerships scattered about the country....
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Lutz (Speaking to staff at GM HQ): Gentlemen, I've been assigned to deliver this horrible news to you. You are being relocated. We can't afford to keep our employees in HQ anymore. Will you two pay attention?

    Ben Dover, and Takeitt Nouw, I'm sorry. We'll buy your homes if you'd like, cash, it should help with the transition. We'll give you top dollar as well. Ben, here's $34.75-
    Takeitt, nice home, I have $62.50 for you- I guess those granite counter tops paid off.

    Here are your bus tickets, don't worry- it's nice in New Orleans, and you can probably find a home along a canal for even less than what we paid for your homes. Think about it- waterfront. Nice, huh?
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    leavethegun-takethecannoli was starred leavethegun-takethecannoli was unstarred
    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Somewhere cheaper than Detroit?
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    Image of Adam Adam
    10/06/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: That's exactly what I was thinking.
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment Adam was starred Adam was unstarred
    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    10/06/09

    @Adam: +1.
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 was starred FTGDWolverineEdition'09 was unstarred
    Image of egoods egoods
    10/06/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: I was thinking Haiti. Mental image of Uncle Lutz tearing up the streets of a slum in Haiti in a ZR1 would not only be hilarious, but it'd give the people there something to strive for!
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    Image of Timtoolman, going ASH Timtoolman, going ASH
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Having visited the Woolworth Building, years ago, it was a functioning hub for their corporate officers and buyers. Frank Woolworth paid cash to build it. Later, floors were leased to other companies. It is a beautiful example of architectural splendor, when the five and dime ruled.

    Now, retailers are more careful to find office space in outlying areas where the rents/taxes are more affordable. Lowes' new office is a converted mall that went belly-up. Although I only made it to the lobby, the inside is nicely done.

    GM's purchase of this exquisite building in an era when they should have been spending money developing new products in tune with the buying public, just underscores the lack of brainpower among the elite management there.
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    Ash78, 4 days left promoted this comment Timtoolman, going ASH was starred Timtoolman, going ASH was unstarred
    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    10/06/09

    @Timtoolman, finally gainfully employed: Advance Auto Parts in Roanoke VA is also a converted, failed shopping mall. Place looks like a freaking prison compound (but a wee bit nicer inside).
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    10/06/09


    @Timtoolman, finally gainfully employed: There's a nice vacant building in Auburn hills, but how is GM going to get the damned "Pentastar" off the roof.

    I'm beginning to think these two will soon be combined into Govt. Motors. The GM corporate training center north of Atlanta mysteriously became the GM/Chrysler Training Center a couple of months ago.
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    Edited by P161911 probably shoudn't have at 10/06/09 1:49 PM P161911 probably shoudn't have was starred P161911 probably shoudn't have was unstarred
    Image of Timtoolman, going ASH Timtoolman, going ASH
    10/06/09

    @Ash78, 4 days left: I will tell you Lowes really tries to protect their corporate workings. We thought we'd get an invite into the guy's inner sanctum, but he met with us in this huge lobby and only spoke to us briefly, after a 4 hour drive.
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    Image of Timtoolman, going ASH Timtoolman, going ASH
    10/06/09

    @P161911 probably shoudn't have: If it's anything like the auto show, that Pentastar will fall all on its own! Hope no one is standing underneath it.
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    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    10/06/09

    @P161911 probably shoudn't have: "but how is GM going to get the damned "Pentastar" off the roof"

    A bit of paint remover and a scraper and it should come off easily...
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have promoted this comment petersterncan was starred petersterncan was unstarred
    Image of S_Mazza S_Mazza
    10/06/09

    No, the invading Allied troops will blow it up with great fanfare. Wait, I'm confused ...
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have promoted this comment S_Mazza was starred S_Mazza was unstarred
    Image of stephdumas stephdumas
    10/06/09

    @P161911 probably shoudn't have: I guess someone will do a photoshop job with the GM logo inside the Pentastar ;-)

    and then the Obama administration will have to sell its shares to someone else.
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have promoted this comment stephdumas was starred stephdumas was unstarred
    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Let's name the new HQ "Mistress Center".

    The Renaissance Center is like your Wife, there she is, you've been with her forever, little rough around the edges, not as glamorous as she once was, put you in debt real well though, didn't she?

    But now you have a new place, your new Mistress, she is where all the fun is at, doing crazy shit your wife won't do any longer. Not since that wedding cake was digested. All the fun is at the Mistress Center. Oh ya, sneak away when those at your old home aren't looking.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    Centro del Renacimiento: Soon, in Tijuana.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/06/09

    @Syrax: I hear they'll stuff your seats with horse manure.
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    Image of Motor_Yakuza Motor_Yakuza
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper

    Is this cheap enough?
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    brake booster by Lucas promoted this comment Motor_Yakuza was starred Motor_Yakuza was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/06/09

    @Motor_Yakuza:

    Retail pricing will drop due to lack of an electric bill!
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    We've got
    Bus tickets to Tennessee
    Won't you
    Pack your bags and sit with me

    /knock knock knockin' on Nissan's door
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    Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master was starred Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master was unstarred
    Image of Captain Liverspots Captain Liverspots
    10/06/09

    @Ash78, 4 days left:

    I'm ghosn up the country, baby, don't you wanna go
    I'm ghosn up the country, baby, don't you wanna go
    I'm ghosn to some place where I've never been before
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    GM has employees?
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    P161911 probably shoudn't have promoted this comment Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm was starred Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm was unstarred
    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    10/06/09

    @Tiberiuswise: No, they are employees of the US Government.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/06/09

    In reply to GM To Keep HQ In Detroit But Move Employees Somewhere Cheaper
    I understand there's some real estate about to come available in Rio.
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