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    GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?

    2011 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger To Remain Rear-Wheel Drive, Get Makeover
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    05/03/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    Whatever the badge on the hood, this combination is a winner and I will want nomatter what.
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    Image of Travis Jones Travis Jones
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    seriously, kill the W-body Impala and put the Chevy badge on a slightly redesigned G8... the Impala and Malibu share far to many similarities, size, power, interior appointments.


    that would make me a happy man.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/02/09

    @Travis Jones: You're right, but you omitted "and the Impala is a pile of shit".


    Leave the outdated floaty-boats to Toyota and Buick.

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    Nope, this is a dead issue. It will not come over until GM is forced to offload Holden. Then, and only then will we start seeing Australian Imports in their natural form.


    GM will need to unload all of their foreign subsidiaries (with the exception of GM China, and GM Korea) in order for their "surgical" bankruptcy to ever get off the ground. Goodbye Opel, so long GM Middle East, nice knowing you GM Australia.


    It started with Saab, and Fiat is looking at taking a controlling share in Opel, so we shall see.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @UDMan: Whoopee! All of GM's worthwhile products are going away!


    Wait. Fuck.

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    Image of Matt McDougall Matt McDougall
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    As awesome as it would be for awesomeness' sake, I don't see enough of a market to justify porting the G8 ST to GMC or Chevy.


    Others have already said it. Chevy G8. Or rename it Caprice/Impala/Chevelle/whatever. Christ, just call it the Chevy Awesome and be done with it.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @Matt McDougall: I don't care if they call it the Chevy Dogfucker, I still want one.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    Would it really be so awful/difficult to bring a few midsize platforms back to RWD?


    I know fuel economy is a big deal, but I'm willing to bet they could get a Zeta-based Malibu to within a few MPG of a FWD Malibu.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @Mad_Science: Actually, I could totally live with seeing an AWD turbo 6 Malibu SS.


    Save the RWD for the Impala.

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    Image of cargogh cargogh
    05/01/09

    @pauljones: Have you ever noticed how much a two door Malibu would resemble an A5?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @cargogh: That's what I was thinking, too.


    Two doors, AWD, six-speed, and maybe the DI V6 out of the Camaro.


    That would be bitchin'.


    So long as the don't name it "Monte Carlo".

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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    I'd buy that for a dollar!
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    A Chevy Caprice (V6 and maybe V8 for the SS) is my guess. Shortly followed by a Buick and Cadillac and Saturn and Oldsmobile and... Oops, sorry I thought this was 1989.


    THREADJACK: The comments are not loading in Chrome anymore. I typing this using IE6 :-(
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    /off to wash the IE6 flue off my hands...

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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    GM would be stupid if they don't rebadge it as a Chevrolet. That and it would would be a dick thing to do, hanging Holden out to dry.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    1)Put a Chevrolet badge on it

    2)Call it the El Camino

    3)Make every Jalop in the land rejoice

    4)Put a manual transmission in the car

    5)Make every Jalop in the land rejoice, and then some

    6)Put the LS engines in there

    7)Make every Jalop in the land rejoice, and then some more

    8)Make adverts with Megan Fox as the model

    9)Make every Jalop in the land rejoice, and then some more, yeah, even more

    10)????

    11)Profit!!!
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    Image of mzs mzs
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    Oh god no don't do it. You just have to know that GM is planning a 4 door Camaro on the full length Zeta.


    Actually either a Zeta based Impala or STS/DTS seem to be the most likely. GM had stopped future work on the Zeta platform. I thought they would hav just continued on with EpII and W in the future at this point. Actually why is there still work done on both W and EpII?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @mzs: The W-body is the ultimate polished turd.


    Too bad they didn't actually, y'know, do anything under the surface of the turd.

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    Image of mzs mzs
    05/01/09

    @FuzzyPlushroomanyte: That is why they should abandon W at this point and focus on EpII. They probably will not though since GM Europe is in control of that platform. I really don't see the place for both and the W has been around for what 20-25 years at this point.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    05/01/09

    @mzs:


    You do know that the W platform is essentially dead, right? After this year, only the current Impala will be based on it, and probably not for long.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @mzs: Hell, even when new it wasn't that great. Yesterday's technology with today's styling, then - and now it's just ridiculous.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    I highly doubt this is high on the agenda at GM... but I have a weak spot for this kind of car.. brainwashed by jalopnik?
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    DENALI is the same as DENIAL, especially if you live in California, or any large metropolitan area.
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    Image of TampaRon TampaRon
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    I saw a beautiful G8 GT today on my lunch break and it just made me sad. What a fantastic car and now its gone. If the idiots pooting around in their ugly and BORING Accord/Camry/Altimas had a clue I think the ending would be a different story for Pontiac.
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    Image of chrnochime chrnochime
    05/01/09

    @TampaRon:


    Seeing that when the G8 was released, the V8 was stuck with a slushbox, and the base was too underpowered to be fun to drive(comes with a stick? can't remember), only those too sissy to drive stick would go for the V8 GT. Yeah they finally got GXP out late last year with a proper tremec 6-speed, but by then everyone knew GM was on the brink of going bankrupt, and who in their f'n right mind would buy a car that might not have parts available very soon??

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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    05/02/09

    @chrnochime: It's an LS engine (there's, what, a few dozen of them in every junkyard in America), there are lord knows how many Holdens, Vauxhals, Chevys, etc. out there that share the platform... there will be parts. Even if GM goes tits up tomorrow I don't see parts obtainment being an issue... at least not by PCH standards.
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    Image of not4one not4one
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    Ok let's stop the wet dreams...the market for the ute would be exhausted in about 60 days. I say improve the interior and call it a Caprice...it would add some polish to Chevy and get some decent volume. It could make a nice Buick, but too close in market/size to the LaCrosse..nor does sit fit in the Cadillac line-up with the CTS.
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    Image of TRAMS_AM TRAMS_AM
    05/01/09

    @not4one: Holden calls it the Calais



    There's also the long wheelbase Caprice


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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    05/01/09

    @TRAMS_AM: AKA the Holden Statesman.
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    Image of D'Chevette D'Chevette
    05/01/09

    In reply to GM Considering Zeta RWD Platform For Other Brands: GMC Denali ST?
    HUMMER H0
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/01/09

    @VonPinto: Nah, you pick those up over off 4th street.


    ...oh, that's a zero.

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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    05/01/09

    @VonPinto: This is how all Hummers should look like:


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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    05/01/09

    @Mobius_1: No no no, the utes are supposed to have the flat portion in the REAR. This is all backwards!
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    05/01/09

    @Skunky: Sorry, the H2's fron and rears look the same boxy flat right angular thing so I didn't realise...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/01/09

    @Mobius_1: The driver died, right?


    pleasepleaseplease


    As long as anyone in the school bus is okay (which seems exceedingly likely), anyway.

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