This in a rear wheel drive converted 1984 or 1985 Ford Tempo two-door would be something interesting. I've seen a big block Ford stuffed into one ('85 GL Coupe), but nothing modern (or 1994+ for that matter). #raptor
@günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: What, what, what? Did someone say GT? Wow, that is some engine, isn't it? I think I'll stick with the 5.4-liter engine. Thanks for thinking of me! ;) #raptor
@skaycog: aww come on, no replacement for displacement and all...
though.. i guess they way they have the 5.4 crammed in there it'd take a lot of re-engineerding to do... and why mess with something that works so well already. (you're quite welcome nudge nudge ;) #raptor
@skaycog: You're right to stick with the 5.4L it's lighter and with the internals package all you need to do is turbo the thing and you're pumping out over 1000hp. #raptor
My biggest problem with these Ford motors ever since the introduction of the Modular motor is that they are MASSIVE in size. I had a dual cam on an engine stand next to a 426 Hemi and they were seemingly about the same dimensions in every aspect. #boss
Maybe I just haven't seen any naked (no plastic covers) modern V8s but that is one of the most unusual intake manifolds I've ever seen. Are they doing something with variable length runners? or are there some really crazy passages inside to equalize the lengths? #boss
@Matt Hardigree: It's not the material, it's the shape. It appears that the air flows in through the centrally positioned throttle body towards the rear of the engine then down into a log like form down the middle of the cylinder banks then there are the long, graceful arches of the individual runners to each cylinder. But what is going on in that area between the cylinders? The casting is hard to figure out, like are there short runners that also go to the cylinders? Or does the casting continue with a central runner from the throttle body back to the center of the valley and then the air has to double back to get to the rear cylinders? Or does it just dump into the end of a large volume cavity and the runners emanate out from it thereby making the distance to the front cylinders longer than the rear?
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I thought engines were made of plastic? Every car I have seen in the past 10 years has a plastic engine under the hood. Unless those are just covers? #boss
@rigidjunkie: No, you're right. Modern engines are plastic boxes that contain anywhere from 4-16 hamsters running on wheels. The Ecoboost boxes pack guinea pigs for greater efficiency. #raptor
Heh, that difficult to make it street legal? I can't imagine it is. Hell, there are countless rednecks making less safe vehicles that are legal to drive on the street.
All in all, I think it's a pretty bad ass truck. I wholeheartedly approve. #raptor
@send lawyers, guns, and money: Re: WRC - You implied it, but I want to clearly state- as part of practically any rally, cars must drive on open roads to get from special stage to special stage- and must comply with the local laws while doing it. A blind eye probably gets turned more often than not, regarding loud exhausts and the like, but every now and then you hear about a WRC driver getting a speeding ticket because he was running late to his starting time at the next SS.
I watch Ken Block videos just to spy the Vermont plates on the Subies. Go Vermont!
It ain't the Ford GT, but dayum FoMoCo is here to paaar-TAY! Gonna rock out with its cock out.
Is anybody else throwing out this kind of enthusiast-targeted automotive shenanigan-in-the-real? An in-house tuner supercar? No? Well, sure, there's the Corv... uh, the Vipe...hmm, I guess not. I mean, sure the Corvette is a balls-out performance thrillride, but did GM stick that tasty engine into a bigass truck and fling it, overhand, into a desert race? No. Henry's pride and Nazi-flavored joy is racking and stacking a heap of VINless chassis with ginormous motors and you know what that means - it's racing time in Dearborn. Or the Baja Peninsula. Whatever. I mean, what the hell else are you gonna do with a ride with no VIN? Don't dare take it on the street. Hit the dunes! #raptor
@GasGuzzler: Hey, GG, long time no shout at. Haven't seen you around in a while.
Well yes, the Belly-up Twins have certain evil overlords to whom they must explain themselves, which is good - it turns out that some of the stuff they've been doing simply has no explanation.
But what Ford is doing is also called Marketing. Build a halo car - or truck - win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Used to work, why not now? GM and Chrysler both have engineering divisions that, last I heard, had at least a 60-40 human-chimp ratio. They should be able to get some stuff together and build some shining examples of their own. The Corvette is an excellent example. The Viper was a pretty good example - last I heard, it was faster than the 'Vette around almost anything but a disco, and almost driveable by mortals. So playing up the approachability of automotive greatness, to the teeming hordes of pedestrians, might just sell a few cars and trucks.
Witness the Ford Raptor.
See, you can make a business case for a gigantic engine and a supersporty truck chassis. Pitch it past the shareholders - and the flinty-eyed government accountants - and see what shakes out. #raptor
@Elhigh: Yeah work's been busy so my commenting has decreased.
Agreed this is solid marketing by Ford. I suppose that is the hard pill to swallow with respect to GM and Chrysler as they both have very talented engineers and designers, they always have. Hell, there was a time from the late 80s to the mid 2000s where nearly every NAIAS was a 100% certainty of a new Chrysler concept car that would blow everyone away. It's sad that sort of creativity has been squeezed out of the company. But I do believe that Fiat does intend to help Chrysler survive, it's in their interest as they'd essentially be getting a bargain deal on a solid automaker if they can pull it off. And Sergio Marchionne isn't going to want that blemish on his resume.
GM on the other hand, we'll see. The government has it's perverted hands so far up GM's rear, god only knows what could come out. #raptor
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though.. i guess they way they have the 5.4 crammed in there it'd take a lot of re-engineerding to do... and why mess with something that works so well already. (you're quite welcome nudge nudge ;) #raptor
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There again, 550hp is probably more than enough for me. When I get one, we'll go on that drive off into the sunset. #raptor
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All in all, I think it's a pretty bad ass truck. I wholeheartedly approve. #raptor
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At least, unlike "stock" cars, this has at least a couple of traceable genetic ties to reality.
/another reason why I love WRC...race cars with working turn signals, wipers, doors, etc., and drivable on the street, if you're a masochist. #raptor
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I watch Ken Block videos just to spy the Vermont plates on the Subies. Go Vermont!
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I remember in Monaco one driver being pulled over for having only three wheels. Many times, they then get an escort...though not that time.
WRC is the coolest.
Rollover? Hope you land on the wheels and there are spectators to push. #raptor
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Is anybody else throwing out this kind of enthusiast-targeted automotive shenanigan-in-the-real? An in-house tuner supercar? No? Well, sure, there's the Corv... uh, the Vipe...hmm, I guess not. I mean, sure the Corvette is a balls-out performance thrillride, but did GM stick that tasty engine into a bigass truck and fling it, overhand, into a desert race? No. Henry's pride and Nazi-flavored joy is racking and stacking a heap of VINless chassis with ginormous motors and you know what that means - it's racing time in Dearborn. Or the Baja Peninsula. Whatever. I mean, what the hell else are you gonna do with a ride with no VIN? Don't dare take it on the street. Hit the dunes! #raptor
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Ford doesn't have to problem. #raptor
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Well yes, the Belly-up Twins have certain evil overlords to whom they must explain themselves, which is good - it turns out that some of the stuff they've been doing simply has no explanation.
But what Ford is doing is also called Marketing. Build a halo car - or truck - win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Used to work, why not now? GM and Chrysler both have engineering divisions that, last I heard, had at least a 60-40 human-chimp ratio. They should be able to get some stuff together and build some shining examples of their own. The Corvette is an excellent example. The Viper was a pretty good example - last I heard, it was faster than the 'Vette around almost anything but a disco, and almost driveable by mortals. So playing up the approachability of automotive greatness, to the teeming hordes of pedestrians, might just sell a few cars and trucks.
Witness the Ford Raptor.
See, you can make a business case for a gigantic engine and a supersporty truck chassis. Pitch it past the shareholders - and the flinty-eyed government accountants - and see what shakes out. #raptor
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Agreed this is solid marketing by Ford. I suppose that is the hard pill to swallow with respect to GM and Chrysler as they both have very talented engineers and designers, they always have. Hell, there was a time from the late 80s to the mid 2000s where nearly every NAIAS was a 100% certainty of a new Chrysler concept car that would blow everyone away. It's sad that sort of creativity has been squeezed out of the company. But I do believe that Fiat does intend to help Chrysler survive, it's in their interest as they'd essentially be getting a bargain deal on a solid automaker if they can pull it off. And Sergio Marchionne isn't going to want that blemish on his resume.
GM on the other hand, we'll see. The government has it's perverted hands so far up GM's rear, god only knows what could come out. #raptor
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"Raptor Baja Mega Macho 100-Grand On-Road Special Big Buck Edition High Roller."
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