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    Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: The Non-Big 3 American Machines

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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    07/11/09

    In reply to Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: The Non-Big 3 American Machines
    Hey, Murilee. I think I mentioned this before, but maybe I didn't. That Rambler American you guessed as a '61 is almost certainly a '63. The grille is definitely from a '63, as is the trunk lid with the "330" badge (the 220, 330 and 440 trim levels were introduced in '63, which was the last year for this platform).



    While it warms my heart to see my beloved AMCs so well represented here, I have to echo our Perambulating Entertainer friend's lament as to the relative dearth of Studebakers. Such is life, I guess. If they aren't there, you can't shoot 'em, right?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    07/11/09

    @Mike the Dog: Hell, I don't know how or why I decided that car is a '61. I'm scared of changing posts once they've gone live, what with the Server Hamsters Of Fury, but maybe I'll try to fix it after they've had their meds.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    07/11/09

    @Murilee Martin: I'm guessing you based it on the DOT approval year molded into the taillight. the lenses were the same '61-'63, so they all say 61, just like the ones on my '63.



    EDIT: If you fear angering Nibbles and having him eat your posts, don't bother changing it. I'll just try to remember I mentioned it already.
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    07/11/09

    @Murilee Martin: 'Server Hamsters Of Fury' would be an excellent name for a rock band. Catch 'Murilee Martin and the Server Hamsters Of Fury', live at the Jalopnik, Saturday and Sunday only. Fifth caller to correctly date the Rambler American gets two passes and a signed 'Save the Enzos' T-shirt.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    07/11/09

    @Mike the Dog: I never, ever go by the DOT taillight numbers when trying to figure out the year of a car. Taillights stay the same for years and/or get replaced frequently. Mostly I go by the Standard Catalog.
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    07/11/09

    In reply to Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: The Non-Big 3 American Machines
    DOTS really makes me appreciate how spoiled I was growing up. My town had the occasional Golden Hawk and DS19 sighting. Word is there is a Bentley I've never seen, not to mention all the ancient, solid iron trucks throughout the county.
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    07/11/09

    In reply to Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: The Non-Big 3 American Machines
    I'm not faulting you, Murilee, but the lack of sufficient Studebakerage is utterly disappointing. My roommate's father owns a '48 Land Cruiser and a supercharged '64 Daytona on top of the '65 Cruiser.

    Alameda needs a Studebaker enthusiast.
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    07/11/09

    @A strolling player: Sometime last year, I had an all-too-brief glimpse of a Studebaker PICKUP--a creature I didn't know existed. Based on my research after the fact, it looked to be early '60s. Obviously restored, and visiting a NJ McDonald's. Just weird, in the best way.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    07/11/09

    @A strolling player: Clearly, your roommate's dad needs to move, at the very least.
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    Image of junkman junkman
    07/11/09

    @A strolling player: My GT Hawk came from the Bay area a few years ago, so I'll take partial blame for the dearth of South Bend's finest in this elite group.
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    07/11/09

    @flyingstitch can't comment from work anymore: Ah, yes. My dream garage includes a Studebaker Champ as an ideal parts runner. If only you had pictures...!
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    07/11/09

    @junkman: The knowledge that such a fine automobile is in good hands--and I'm not talking about Allstate's--is worth more than a thousand photographs.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    07/11/09

    @A strolling player: I know this is a damned poor substitute for DOTS Studebakers, but here's a link to a set of all my Studebaker pics. (there's a pickup or two among them)

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikes_car_pix/sets/72157621281902362/

    (Hopefully the link works, they seem not to these days).
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    07/11/09

    @flyingstitch can't comment from work anymore:I knew a guy who had a Studebaker pick-up, and I believe it was from the 50's era. I really think they might have been made even in the 40's. It was light green, and it was his daily driver.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    07/11/09

    @Mike the Dog: Don't apologise, this is the most excellent Flickr set I've ever seen!

    In return, and for those of you interested, here's a set I took of my roommate's '65 Cruiser at Audubon Park on a lovely spring afternoon.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/astrollingplayer/sets/72157617468960311/
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    07/11/09

    @junkman: Hey, I have a Hawk too--only mine is about 3 inches long and is made by Diecast.
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    Image of The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd.
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    Can someone, possibly a Rambler Freak, tell me (us) what a 'Weather Eye' is and how it functioned?
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    06/28/09

    @The Dead In Side Group of Companies Ltd:

    "..Can someone, possibly a Rambler Freak, tell me (us) what a 'Weather Eye' is and how it functioned..?"


    I'm more of a later American Motors Corporation buff, but the 'Weather Eye' is a Nash invention from 1938. They were the first manufacturer to use vented air from outside the vehicle to draw through a heater coil, which was then heated by means of engine coolant fluid. The temperature of the resultant 'Conditioned Air' could thus be controlled by a valve regulating the coolant flow to the coil. Essentially, the system used in the vast majority of vehicles in use today.


    Don't get me going. It's rock-gut.

    And I can't stop.

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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- breathe -OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    Thanks all.

    Sad story, is I am a Rambler Freak.

    I should know better, but it's like alcoholism and booze.
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    Image of wimbles - Mad as hell about Pontiac's demise wimbles - Mad as hell about Pontiac's demise
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    I recognize that Rambler, and the Comet next to it. I saw (and photographed) both cars last July.

    Did you see the Cross Country wagon that was in the Ford section?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    06/29/09

    @wimbles - Mad as hell about Pontiac's demise: Oh yeah, I shot that one too. Got a big stash of DOTJ photos saved up.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/28/09

    In reply to Model Hell Continues To Beckon: Vintage AMC SC/Rambler Kit In 1:25 Scale!


    Imagine that SC/Rambler kit mated with a model of one of these. Jeep chassis, possibly the Rambler engine, red, white, and gold.

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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    That's such a clean design for that time. No fins, no fake spare tire on the trunk and no radiator grille. The doors weren't as thick as hams like so many cars, and the sculpting was simple and modern. The basic design would have still been contemporary six years later if AMC hadn't discarded it in favor of increasingly baroque and bloated redesigns.


    The car-buying public didn't abandon the Rambler brand -- AMC abandoned the practical compact market to the Dodge Dart and Plymouth Valiant.

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/28/09

    @DrLemming: I dunno... Rambler Crazy at its best was at and sometimes one notch above MoPar Crazy, which is saying something.
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    06/28/09

    @Novaload Misses Murilee: Rest of thought? Oh, yeah; so when they went superbland, why, they hardly seemed like Ramblers any more!
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    06/28/09

    @DrLemming: I've always wondered what would have happened if AMC maintained the conservative product approach after Romney left.


    They may have hung on, but '64-'65 was about when the Big Three finally got a good hold on the intermediate market. Maybe if they just would have skipped the Marlin, Matador and Pacer they would have been a lot better off.


    Also, I still think the '67 models were kinda sharp. And creating a "full-size" Ambassador by tacking on length ahead of the firewall is a cheat, but it was cheap and effective.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    ...Yep, California can still go to hell...
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    06/29/09

    @FP - tittin' and shittin' with Tomsk: Hey, it lasted this long out because it was out here.


    You don't even get the chance to see cars this old anywhere else b/c they're dead after 10-15 years.

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    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    Can't you buy the whole car from these places or not?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    06/28/09

    @buickboy92: No.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/28/09

    @Murilee Martin: And That's The Problem.


    Not even with a salvage title?

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    06/28/09

    @Murilee Martin: Well that sucks, I wonder why?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    06/29/09

    @buickboy92: The major self-service wrecking yard chains are great for DOTJ photos, because they have a very rapid turnover of inventory, but they're mostly owned by steel companies and their priorities are all about harvesting valuable metals.


    That said, most of the cars in these yards have been through some sort of city/county auction for towed cars. The San Francisco auction, for example, takes place weekly and always has 200-300 vehicles. Almost all of the cars you see in this series had the opportunity to be bought for the minimum bid (usually $150, in my experience), and failed to do so.

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    Image of JDisnidiet JDisnidiet
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    I used to drive a '63, back in the 70s, and it was good, inexpensive and reliable.


    But it's 46 years old. We can let it go. It's work here is done. Like the endless cycle of life envisioned by some religions, it will be reborn as a Geely or Tata and all will be right with the cosmos.

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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    06/28/09

    @JDisnidiet:

    Ok, here's the thing...


    It will be reborn, but not as a Tata or Geely, but as girders or aluminum cans or something far less exciting than a car.

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    Image of the good dr zero the good dr zero
    06/28/09

    @Plecostomus needs to work at Jalopnik: If you can develop a process to turn steel into aluminium, then you would be a very rich man.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    There is no justice.


    This vehicle must have transported pleated skirts, and starched white shirts, to school and church, and done a thousand other thankless tasks. Brown shoes don't make it. I bet Mom had a fleeting thought of little Jimmy in the back, 6 and a half years old, the time he threw up coming back from the circus, just as she sighed her last breath, in that hospital bed two years ago last fall. They buried her. Now the car is new boron steel. But there is no factory in Kenosha.


    I can't stand it.

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    06/28/09

    @DoctorNine's Tin Foil Hat:

    Dang, Doctor, half way reading your paragraph I was expecting you to write a poignant novella like Graverobber and others were so fond of penning back in the Jalopnik days of yore...
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/28/09

    @DoctorNine's Tin Foil Hat: Nailed it. Perfect tribute.
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    06/28/09

    @Novaload Misses Murilee: Not terribly confusing - 12 MPH was its top speed.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    06/28/09

    @DoctorNine's Tin Foil Hat: [Holds hat to chest and sobs quietly] Thank you for that very touching tribute to an old family friend. Even if it wasn't your family or your friend, you know this car was special to somebody, probably several somebodies. :'(
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    06/28/09

    @Alfisted:

    It wasn't until I took another look at the gallery that I realized what you did there. I am still chuckling.

    +1.
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    06/28/09

    In reply to Even Ramblers Are Consumed By The Crusher's Insatiable Hunger!
    I always what kind of life you lead... spending most of your days hanging out in junkyards and taking pictures of cars in Almeda that belong them.
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    06/28/09

    @grzydj:


    Ms. Murilee lives the life of a happy wanderer. From junkyards to LeMons events to performance art shows, poetry slams, sporting events with the Junkyard Boogaloo Bommbox in tow ('cause you can't carry the damned thing), our Murilee lives in a expansive world of automotive riches and artistic expression.


    Cue the Lalo Schifrin soundtrack as the carburetor ritual begins.

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    06/28/09

    @Uncle Bo is quadrozontal: Ahem... it's Mr.


    Mr Murilee has more facial hair than any "Ms" I've met outside of the Russian Navy (Shudders). Trust me... it's Mr.

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    06/28/09

    @KillerBRacing: We know. Believe me, we know.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/28/09

    @KillerBRacing: Ahem. We know. But it's a meme here, the sexy, sexy, Ms. Murille.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    06/28/09

    @KillerBRacing: Inside joke, just go with it.


    ;-)

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    Image of Impalamino mkIV Impalamino mkIV
    06/28/09

    In reply to Model Hell Continues To Beckon: Vintage AMC SC/Rambler Kit In 1:25 Scale!
    Legend has it there is a barber in Iowa City that owns a SC/Rambler...


    /cryptic

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    06/28/09

    @Impalamino mkIV: There's a guy in Ypsilanti, MI that has one he bought brand new in 1969. It's absolutely perfect.
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