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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11/17/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    First car built using open source design, and their opportunity for a historic moment is THIS?
    For car with the word "Fighter" as part of it's name???

    More of a historic "Meh-ment".

    Doesn't quite rank up there with: "Mr. Watson, come here I need you.", does it? #rallyfighter
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    It would be a lot cooler if they had actually rebuilt the motor instead of just swapping it in. #rallyfighter
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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    Corners like a whale, sounds like a vacuum sucking up ball bearings and looks like a reject form a Mad Max movie. Open Source proving democracy can suck. #rallyfighter
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    Image of GianniMadden GianniMadden
    11/17/09

    @ArtForge: Being that it was the "first drive" I HIGHLY doubt the suspension is tuned properly. And even if it was, this is built as a desert car, not a street car. They handle completely different. It's hard to tell int he pictures posted, but if they are running dual rate coil overs in the rear with or without a reservoir, they need to be running at least one form of a sway bar. Seeing as the thing didn't even have a dash yet, I'm not counting on it having a sway bar installed at the time the video was made.
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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/17/09

    @GianniMadden: I don't see this thing being any better than mediocre at best. #rallyfighter
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    Well, they're much further along than many "real" manufacturers.

    Can't think of any right now...cold medication is gettin' in the way...but you know who I mean.

    Can I get an asbestos curtain for a firewall? I want to feel some semblance of safe. #rallyfighter
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    Image of bradyb bradyb
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    Like I said before, dump the $15,000 BMW engine and swap with a $2,000 2.4L Ecotec. #rallyfighter
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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/16/09

    @bradyb: 2.0 supercharged, Ecotec. even better. I can source you several for 1500 with GM performance parts preinstalled. #rallyfighter
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    Image of bradyb bradyb
    11/17/09

    @ArtForge: For sure the LSJ would work but what about teh direct injection turbo 2.0 as well? The LNF would be substancially lighter and cheaper then a straight six diesel. My Slostice with that motor averages about 35 MPG. #rallyfighter
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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/17/09

    @bradyb: LNF would be fine too. Only drawback is that I would hate to wind that thing up, turbo lag going into a corner, have the boost hit past teh apex and flip that cruise ship over. It looks like it would roll really easily.
    I play with LSJ's on a daily basis and like the higher compression and having juice at the lower end (Autocross). We are headed towards a twincharged beast soon we just have to quit blowing engines first, it gets expensive. #rallyfighter
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    If it works as wild as it looks, they should do fine. 3 liter BMW turbodiesel gets your attention, though it sounds like an old Mercedes truck. #rallyfighter
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    Rueben Studdard got lots of votes, too. #rallyfighter
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    The part that makes my eyebrows jump up is, vote on your favorite and we'll build it, and this was what came out on top? Really?

    Dang. It must be something in the water.

    Don't get me wrong - I like it. Sorta. BMW straight six, good. ZF tranny, good. Big chunky tires for offroad capability, good. Offroad racing market target, good.

    Mix 'em all together. Good? Dunno. I'd drive, but a couple of tabs of acid first might help it all make sense. #rallyfighter
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    Image of drewdrawsLA drewdrawsLA
    11/16/09

    @Elhigh: I agree. I've been public in my opposition to the way they conducted the project, but regardless, I thought it would end up looking better in the end.

    Quite awkward on the move (the rear especially). Like a Suzuki X-90 that's been stretched over a racetruck chassis. #rallyfighter
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    Still love it...and seeing it burble to life and actually roll around under its own power...very satisfying. #rallyfighter
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    I like it, but where's the firewall? You get an engine fire you are toast! #rallyfighter
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/16/09

    @dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!: It's easier to skip the firewall than to try to plumb in a heater. #rallyfighter
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive

    It's ALIVE! #rallyfighter
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    That's one happy-looking catfish. #rallyfighter
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/16/09

    In reply to Local Motors' Open Source Rally Fighter Takes First Drive
    I like this thing a lot. But I still wonder why Pancho Villa is on one side and Teddy Roosevelt is on the other?
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    Edited by VeeArrrSix at 11/16/09 2:54 PM VeeArrrSix was starred VeeArrrSix was unstarred
    Image of bearslayer bearslayer
    11/16/09

    @VeeArrrSix: My first guess is the "do what you can.." quote from teddy.. and pancho's last words "don't let it end like this"..

    seems to sum up the carpocalypse and motivation at the same time. #rallyfighter
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    Image of drewdrawsLA drewdrawsLA
    11/16/09

    @VeeArrrSix: It's because, like the questionable styling of the car, they were chosen by the crowd.

    "The people, sir, is a beast". #rallyfighter
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    Image of CatherineNoodle CatherineNoodle
    11/08/09

    In reply to Local Motors Rally Fighter: The First-Ever Creative Commons Car
    But, you know what? This is how NEW car companies can be started. Why rely on the big 3 or 4 or whatever to crank out the same crap? Yes there is an issue with intellectual property, but it's a great way for young designers to get real world experience NOW.
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    Image of 67firebird454 67firebird454
    11/07/09

    In reply to Local Motors Rally Fighter: The First-Ever Creative Commons Car
    It could use 4wd and a lower price. Although that BMW engine is nice it's too expensive base cost, equally expensive repairs, expensive aftermarket, and what will be hard to find parts.

    Other than that I like the ideas they have, especially the assisted build, where they can skip some government regulations and give people a connection with their car right off the bat without the long, arduous, and usually problematic process of kit car building.

    I'm looking forward to what they make in the future. Most new cars have compromise and it'll be interesting to see what other segments they fill. #localmotors
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