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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/28/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    For pure, back to basics driving pleasure, I bet the Cobra is unrivalled by modern supercars. But the Cobra is hardly a car you'd use when it's wet, when it's snowing, when you are going to IKEA, when you are going to work, when you want to waft on the highway, when you want to not die on a mountain road due to less than Stig driving skills, when it's hot, when...

    You get the idea.
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    Image of Comrade Clockwork Comrade Clockwork
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    I don't see the problem. A lot of people build cars for cheap that could outdrag a ZR1, Enzo, Veyron...

    When you don't care about things like a stereo or roof or coming back alive you can go as fast as you like.

    Considering all the stuff this cobra is missing, it should have been even faster.
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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    There was this certain guy, Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman, who could have explained this phenomenon.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    Hey, kids, please go RTFA. The Cobra is not an old classic Cobra, it is a new version with the Corvette engine, Porsche suspension, etc. Okay, done? Now, if you'd like to continue making inane "Corvette rulez!" statements, go ahead.

    /end rant.

    I remember a few years back, they tried this with a Cobra and a Viper, first gen. The Cobra won, but then got disqualified because it didn't even have a fraction of the safety equipment required to be on the track.

    Point is, it's going to be hard to beat an old Cobra. They didn't need to carry any of the stuff new cars do, so they are already lighter. A good replica gets lighter still. Throw a really good tuner into the works, and eventually not even a car as awesome as the Corvette has much of a chance.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    On the otherhand, the ZR1 will stop and go around corners in an entertaining, but mostly non-threatening, fashion. The 427 Cobra will try really hard to kill you. And thus, balance is restored to the universe.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    08/27/09

    @scroggs: You say "will try really hard to kill you" as if it's a bad thing...
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    08/27/09

    @scroggs: I'm surprised by your response, it seems like you are thinking of this like an original, not a modern replica. The originals were diabolical, the modern replicas have had quite a bit of therapy to overcome their homicidal tendencies. The rest of the test drive makes it seem fairly docile. [www.autocar.co.uk]
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    scroggs promoted this comment Edited by SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) at 08/27/09 12:24 PM SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    08/27/09

    @SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R): See, this is where I get into trouble. The MkIV Cobras are, to my mind, not "real" Cobras. They're restomods. Better suspension, brakes, and steering with all of the 427 Cobra looks and none of the original 427 Cobra vices.

    Real, or if you prefer, "period" AC/Shelby Cobras are potential lifetakers. And as much as I admire them, I wouldn't want one. Because I'd want to drive it...fast, it would in turn kill me, and then me and it's expensive mangled remains would be the subject of sport on this very site. And I ain't going out like that!
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    Image of Flathead  Smith Flathead Smith
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    There’s a guy that lives on Look Out Mountain that drives an actual 427 AC Ford Cobra as his daily driver into Chattanooga, weather permitting.
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    Edited by Flathead Smith at 08/27/09 11:42 AM Flathead Smith was starred Flathead Smith was unstarred
    Image of RandRace RandRace
    08/27/09

    @Flathead Smith: I bet Ochs Highway in a big Cobra is a blast! He should come out to play on The Suck late some Saturday night.
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    Image of Flathead  Smith Flathead Smith
    08/27/09

    @RandRace: I imagine it’s nice ride up in a car like that.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    The AC Cobra is just like a lot of the TVRs,you need a big of nuts to drive them on the limit,because it will kill you in the face
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    I drove a replica 427 Cobra once, and it shall go down as the only time I have ever driven one. That thing scared the bejesus out of me. It was simultaneously more muscular than the governator on steroids and more willing to swap ends than Jenna Jameson.

    On the bright side, I looked cool in it. Right up until I messed up the 4-3 downshift and went straight into first.

    Never again. Ever.
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    Image of UglyDuckCar UglyDuckCar
    08/27/09

    @pauljones:
    That is still an experience I'd love to have.

    My dad's friend had the original cobra when it came out. He had to get rid of it because no matter where he took it, or even if it stayed at home, people were trying to steal it.
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    pauljones promoted this comment UglyDuckCar was starred UglyDuckCar was unstarred
    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/27/09

    @pauljones: "On the bright side, I looked cool in it. Right up until I messed up the 4-3 downshift and went straight into first. "

    Did you wet yourself?
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    08/27/09

    @pauljones: Yeah, that was kinda my feeling on it. 427 = Flaming death (albeit very fun).

    I'll just build a mundane 289. Lots of fun, less death mixed in.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    08/27/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: No, no. I hit my head on the steering wheel and nearly shit myself at the same time.

    In my defense, those old four-speeds are imprecise and a bitch to shift, to say nothing of the clutch.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    I bet a case of Brefass Scotch that Ru Paul could out-drag both of these without leaving the house.
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    layabout promoted this comment Jo Schmo was starred Jo Schmo was unstarred
    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/27/09

    @Jo Schmo: And Chuck Norris would feed Mr.Paul to the Cobra and out drag them both.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    Hmmm. Neither one has saran-wrap lips. I don't understand. Oh- drag-racing.
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    Image of CobraGuy CobraGuy
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    hehehe....launch control is no match for a thousand pounds of weight
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    vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in promoted this comment CobraGuy was starred CobraGuy was unstarred
    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    You can't out-drag anything if your car is stolen by a baddie!

    The ZR1 has an anti-theft alarm and engine immobilizer...the Cobra...has no roof.
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    Image of jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    3352/638 = 5.25

    (Assuming 427 engine)
    ~2300/425 = 5.41

    In the hands of a skilled driver, I just don't see the big deal.
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    08/27/09

    @jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware: Bingo. My brothers FFR can't beat my Camaro. Straight line he can't get me no matter what he does. Not enough experience with the T-5 and not enough torque to make up for it.

    We are pretty much even, with some more time behind the wheel I think he could take me.
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    Edited by lilwillie at 08/27/09 11:45 AM lilwillie was starred lilwillie was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    Now, this is what I'm talking about!
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    Image of Theimbellis Theimbellis
    08/27/09

    In reply to AC Cobra Out-Drags Corvette ZR1
    Devil knows how slow Corvettes are compared to real supercars.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    08/27/09

    @Theimbellis: 638hp doesn't qualify for supercar status? I guess your supercar has a flux capacitor then?
    The Cobra may have beat the Vette in that unofficial drag race, (no starter or timer?) but once they pass 100mph the Vette blows right by. Is it worth the extra $$? I'd rather have the Cobra.
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    vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in promoted this comment Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in
    08/27/09

    @Turbineguy: Just ignore the troll. Replying to him only gives him more troll powers.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    08/27/09

    @vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in: Crap. Didn't see it coming.
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    Image of Theimbellis Theimbellis
    08/27/09

    @Turbineguy:

    Have you ever raced a Corvette against a McLaren F1? I don't think so — the F1 surely will leave the Corvette in the dust by several seconds.
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