As an outspoken wagophile, I have a small problem with these lifted wagons: they tend to kill or limit the options for non-lifted wagons.
Would you like to buy a Subaru Legacy Wagon? Too bad. The Legacy-Outback wagon took over and it's the only option. It kills the ability to have all the performance of your favorite sport sedan (Legacy, S4, S6) with room for junk in the trunk.
@Schm-san, SHO-time, fo-SHO.: With cars like this available, can someone please remind me exactly why in the hell we would ever actually need a sport-utility vehicle?
BTW, I'm not liking those headlights...too damn R8-looking.
But overall, the thing is stunning. Jeep should axe the Compass/Patriot and badge engineer an AWD Dodge Magnum. Offer the 3.0L V6 that's sold in Europe and WHAMMY! SALES! Don't thank me Chrysler.
@BanditoGT: Have you seen the editorial staff? With the possible exception of Pete, I'd give even odds that Murilee could take all of the rest of them on by herself.
Ladies and Gentleman, that "thunk" you just heard is the Jalop landing gear posting as we approach the end of the first fabulous All Murilee weekend. We'll be descending back into reality quickly. Please finish your drinks and return yourself to the upright position, if you can.
@TBM-Fan: Actually, this the the perfect amount of ground clearance for the terrain most people-mover SUVs see: occasional deep snow (or plow-walls), occasional dirt roads and occasional ruts in the grass parking lot.
If you need to do real offroading, a modern Range Rover wouldn't fair much better than one of these. All the low-hanging body bits would get all torn up.
The real weak link on for soft-roaders is the tires. Street tires just don't have the sidewall durability for the abuse you can take on bad roads. If I had one, I'd try to track down some DOT-legal rally dirt tires.
That's a handsome beast. I'd even think about it, if they brought it here and it wasn't godawful expensive. I'd only want ti in black or charcoal, unless they also offer those plastic cladding bits in a variety of pastels. Looks like a nice balance of power, handling and economy.
@Herkimer Battle Jitney: They're using the same logic (If that's what you want to call it.) to keep the A6 allroad out; wouldn't want it cannibalizing the Q7.
@Tomsk can park himself, thank you: Because people will buy a giant hulking SUV if they're unable to get one of the most practical vehicles of all time?
No, they won't. They'll buy a Volvo XC70. Which, by the way, coexists peacefully with the XC90. Just sayin'.
Interesting point. I wonder how it will stack up against the upcoming Subaru diesel, in performance and price. Getting both of these two cars in North America would do wonders in putting us back on the road to fuel efficiency and sanity in family transports.
@DoctorNine: Gotta imagine the Audi would be better and probably more expensive, but it would be a close call in fuel efficiency and performance. I've always felt the U.S. needs more wagons!
Hey Matt, welcome to the weekend! I've never been a fan of these toughened up crossovers, but I guess there's quite the market for them as it seems like 90% of subarus are sold tarted up like this. That brown and sliver two tone is pretty heinous however.
BTW, is there anyway to summarize the press release and then link to the actual document? I now know how everybody else feels trying to slog through one of my PCH tirades.
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Would you like to buy a Subaru Legacy Wagon? Too bad. The Legacy-Outback wagon took over and it's the only option. It kills the ability to have all the performance of your favorite sport sedan (Legacy, S4, S6) with room for junk in the trunk.
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To run over econoboxes.
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Also, Reindeer.
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But overall, the thing is stunning. Jeep should axe the Compass/Patriot and badge engineer an AWD Dodge Magnum. Offer the 3.0L V6 that's sold in Europe and WHAMMY! SALES! Don't thank me Chrysler.
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(AMC body, Jeep running gear)
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BEHAVE!!!
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No, not like that, you filthy perverts.
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Thank you for flying Murilee Airlines.
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BMW X5 can't go offroad too
look how close it so the ground @ look @ the tires
you won't get far with those
I rather would take the normal range rover above these one
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If you need to do real offroading, a modern Range Rover wouldn't fair much better than one of these. All the low-hanging body bits would get all torn up.
The real weak link on for soft-roaders is the tires. Street tires just don't have the sidewall durability for the abuse you can take on bad roads. If I had one, I'd try to track down some DOT-legal rally dirt tires.
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No, they won't. They'll buy a Volvo XC70. Which, by the way, coexists peacefully with the XC90. Just sayin'.
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Interesting point. I wonder how it will stack up against the upcoming Subaru diesel, in performance and price. Getting both of these two cars in North America would do wonders in putting us back on the road to fuel efficiency and sanity in family transports.
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BTW, is there anyway to summarize the press release and then link to the actual document? I now know how everybody else feels trying to slog through one of my PCH tirades.
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