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    German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/17/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Well there's a whole lot less other people and trucks out driving at that time of night. And cool air is denser, so has more oxygen for a marginal power increase.


    It makes sense, if you're doing high speed testing on highways with unlimited speed limits to do it when there's minimal other traffic. Just because the speed limit is lifted doesn't mean that other cars or trucks will be driving more than 80 kph, and sometimes passing each other.


    During the day it can be very frustrating to find stretches of highway where you can really get up to speed and maintain it for any amount of time. The Autobahn can often be more of a brake testing exercise, when one tandem trailer lumbers out to pass three others while going up a long hill.

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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    These kinds of fatalities are graphic and excruciating for first responders and the bereaved, but mercifully quick and presumably painless for the deceased.


    As much as I learned to love "Six Feet Under", some of their opening sequences still give me nightmares (and yet, I bought the boxed complete series DVD set).

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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Yikes! I've been on that stretch many times, once while nodding off after 36 nearly sleepless hours (pulled an all-nighter for work and I don't sleep well on planes. As it was, I almost put the rental into the Neckar around Heidelburg more than once going to the hotel.


    Sad news...sad for his family, sad for Porsche...

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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    A classmate's dad was an ambulance driver; he told me of the time his dad was called to respond to the scene of an accident where a car had gone under a cable. His dad took five steps toward the car, saw what was lying in the backseat, and stopped.


    "That's not going in my truck."


    Stunt driver enclosed: some assembly required.

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    02/16/09

    @Elhigh: So, they fired your classmates dad? I mean he didn't wanted to do his job right?
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    The sacrifices that are made so that others can drive amazing cars. My deepest sympathies to the family and the driver's comrades.


    From this photo, it looks like it could have been a left front tire failure. That would lower that corner, making it easier to nose under the barrier. No visible skid marks in the background, but ABS could have been on. I'm sure Porsche and the TUV will want to know what happened, and take corrective action.

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    Image of 413wedge 413wedge
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Test driving at night? Probably fell asleep. RIP.
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    Image of c0de c0de
    02/16/09

    @bigblockautoX: too soon
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    02/16/09

    @c0de: too late
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    I absolutely hate those guard rails, they're designed higher to maintain stability for when an "average" sedan hits them. They're not, however, designed for motorcyclists who tend to get cut in half if they fall from their bike and skid into the rails.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    02/16/09

    @franzouse, weekend jalop...: That's one of the few things that keeps me off a bike. I see all those bare steel edges and think, now slide on that at 60mph when Sweetie McSoccer changes into your line while adjusting her latte. No thanks. I love a nice li'l motorbike, but there's no way I'm giving up so much of my protection to the whims of other drivers.
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    Image of jduffy13 jduffy13
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    What a mess.


    What a waste.


    If that had been a BMW he would have lived.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/16/09

    @jduffy13: And it would've been a better-looking car afterward, too.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    02/16/09

    @jduffy13: If it had been a Hummer he would've put it in 4Low, gone over and kept going.


    Dang, a pro-Hummer situation.

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    02/16/09

    @jduffy13: But is a BMW worth dying for?
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    Image of X3SoB X3SoB
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Most of the comments here are appropriate, but not all. How can one make a joke about this? Unconscionable. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    02/16/09

    @X3SoB: How can you not make jokes? Without humor, life is gloomy, grim and unpleasant. I like it my way better.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    02/16/09

    @X3SoB: So your thoughts and prayers are with all the people that die, all the time? Sounds depressing to me.

    Of course a death is a tragedy for the people involved, but this whole condolences, prayer and whatever thing on blogs start to irritate me endlessly, if anything it only takes away the real meaning behind the words.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Respect to the guy,he was heavily involoved in the development of Porsche cars for over 25 years. Obviously thoughts are with his family & friends,but without disrespect celebrate what he did for Porsche.


    A similar incident happened to a Mercedes test driver in 2003.

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    Image of c0de c0de
    02/16/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: well sadly, those are the risks of his job, if it's any condolence he went doing something he loved.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    02/16/09

    @c0de: Exactly. This basically describes how I want to go.
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    02/16/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: ...and an Audi test driver with the un-rear winged TT prototype (rear end lifted at speed).
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    I feel for his family and friends. That is one hell of a way to go, though. Full throttle on an unrestricted stretch of the A-5 in a Porsche.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    02/16/09

    @engineerd confused n00b: Although, if it were me, every one of my family, at the funeral would be saying, "it's exactly how he would have wanted to go."
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    02/16/09

    @Deartháir is already looking forward to the next Murilopnik: Followed up by, "Selfish jackass."
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    02/16/09

    @SirNotAppearing: That's why I have life insurance. My wife will be set if I:


    a) finish the house

    b) make some of my automotive dreams come true

    c) proceed to kill myself hoonin' my automotive dreams


    Although, if the first thing on that list never happens she will have me killed.

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    Image of c0de c0de
    02/16/09

    @engineerd confused n00b: however, in order to finish the house none of your automotive dreams will come true, and vice versa !
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    02/16/09

    @c0de: I'm a little over-insured myself. I sleep with one eye open, in case the wife gets ideas.
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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Either the guardrails are high or that car is just scary low. No doubt it was wedged underneath but if you compare the height of the rail to the people standing next to it I'd say it's pretty average height. What a way to go, terrible.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    02/16/09

    @GasGuzzler: I think the 911 lifted the rail.
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    Image of BRAWNDO_POWERED BRAWNDO_POWERED
    02/16/09

    @GasGuzzler:


    What do you mean, terrible? That's about the best death a man can hope for.

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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    02/16/09

    @BRAWNDO_POWERED: In the words of my favorite Christian ska band (too obscure?):
    In the hunter-gatherer societies, I'd bring home the bacon. Public thought says men should try and be tame, stirred but not shaken. I say "baseball" then you start to cry, I'm sorry I grieve you. I think a motorcycle's a good way to die, this must bereave you.
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    02/17/09

    @Syrax: I hope my exit involves enough force to put a noticeable bend in a double box beam girder...
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    If those cops were smart they would remove the camo and sell the pics of the car undisguised.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    Layabout posted this in the comments the day it happened - to me, it looks like the guardrail is bent up so the Porsche must have wedged under the guardrail at speed. I wonder how fast he was going at the time of impact.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/16/09

    @acarr260: Cheers for remembering.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    02/16/09

    @layabout now with V8 power:I knew I had seen this somewhere. That or I ate waaay too much acid for breakfast.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    02/16/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: Just goes to show the editors aren't actually paying any attention to us, doesn't it?
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    Image of c0de c0de
    02/16/09

    @Deartháir is already looking forward to the next Murilopnik: took you this long to notice it ?!
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    02/16/09

    @c0de: I was wondering if they were responsible for the Flowers By Irene van that's been parked outside my house for the last three weeks.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/16/09

    @Deartháir: Maybe you should Twitter them...
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    02/16/09

    In reply to German Test Driver Killed In Next-Gen 911 Convertible Crash
    See, it was Panamera's fault!
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