@korvetkeith king of teh horsepowers!: Most hipsters I know would rather eat ground glass than listen to Weezer, though maybe some of them listen to it, you know, ironically.
I'd never be able to change the radio station fast enough if this song started playing, but it's absolutely perfect for what is a video short-story better than most of what is on television.
Guys, good work...all around.
If it wouldn't screw things up, I'd lobby for a LeMons reality show. Real reality, too. Sometimes the oddly-timed spontaneous shit is the funniest.
That Lincoln's engine is incredible sounding...when it's mobile. Though it sounds like they locked the transmission in 2nd gear, which I can understand the logic, but it'd be even quicker, while moving, if it could hit third.
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@so I goes to the local bar, y'know, people: I think it's actually in first-- due to its fairly high redline and ridiculously tall gearing, it'll get to 55-60 mph. 2nd gear tops out at ~95.
I have two Mark VIIIs and I love 'em. That's pretty much what they sound and act like from the factory; the engine is (thankfully) surprisingly loud, and it pulls like crazy past 3000 rpm. Reliability is decent for a high-tech domestic car, but of course that's not saying a whole lot. Unless overheated, the engine is absolutely bulletproof, though.
@freds4hb: If one were going to make a rip-off of .Lemons, why wouldn't one at least try to make it different? I think tossing out the expensive safety requirements might snag some teams. (not that I'm condoning that, it just doesn't make sense to do a complete carbon-copy of Lemons and in no way change it).
@brawndo_powered: As you can see by the article Lemons is super popular. Also, there are a lot of people that don't get to participate due to it being so full (it is a ton of fun and I love what Lemons is by the way). As there are a lot of people that haven't got to participate in this style of racing ChumpCar has come along to fill that extra need. They do have some other rules and regs to make it a bit different. Feel free to check out the differences at the site (the rules and F.A.Q. all address this point). Additionally the focus is on not overlapping with lemons events (200 miles and 30 days) so that lemons drivers can do ChumpCar events as well. The whole point is to get more people racing. The point is not to "rip-off," it is to provide racing opportunity.
@freds4hb: Dittos, it is nice to have an event closer to home for denizens of the PNW, but I am going to be in Maui during the Portland race. The only thing different, from what I can tell, is the lack of a theme requirement. If this ruins it for you, then maybe you don't really need to find an "affordable" road race?
That one-second clip of Phoebe Cates from Fast Times was enough to cause me to make teh juice.
And while I knew LeMons was the fasting growing motorsport in the universe, it never dawned on me that applicants actually get rejected. Like paulmer below, I too wonder the most common cause of rejection. For me, it's usually due to social awkwardness.
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@paulmer hates electric cars: They get rejected because there's not enough room on the track for everybody. This mostly applies to the West Coast, MSR, and CMP races; New England and New Orleans usually have open slots pretty late in the application schedule.
I think FoMoCo accomplished what they set out to do with the Mark VIII's. I've been trolling the pick-a-part for one of those engines. The block is aluminum and cast by Teksid- one of Ferrari's suppliers. It can handle 1000+ HP and weighs 85 lbs.
There is one Mark VIII that still has the engine but that thing has 80K miles of leaky oil cooler smothered all over everything.
It's not an engine covered in oil gunk... Dude, it's externally-lubricated!!!
See, this makes it faster/easier to remove/replace when time is of-the-essence.
Seriously, though, there is an LSC I see, daily, which is on flat suspension, and looks as if it hasn't moved in a year, at least.
If I manage to hit a lottery, I'm gonna buy that LSC, the 1968 300 convertible on the same lot, and both 1981 square-trunk Imperials he has...just for fun.
@so I goes to the local bar, y'know, people: it almost pisses me off that someone would drive it leaking like that one was. Those O-rings are like $3.50 each. That $3.50 sure would make my life easier. There was a *clean* LSC camped out across from me at CMP. I thought about pulling the old switcheroo late in the night. What are the odds grandma noticing that she has 20 less horsepower and 70 extra lbs under the hood?
All the money that Ford spent on the ill-fated MN-12 program has finally paid off.
Well, actually for me it paid off the first time I saw my dad get out of his then-new green-over-white leather Mark VIII wearing a full length leather coat and a fur hat, despite the fact that my father is not (to my knowledge) a pimp.
@FormerlyPreferredCustomer: I think the MN12 has great LeMons potential, once reliability problems are sorted out. The Police Brutality car is seriously fast and handles very well.
@Murilee Martin: I did notice that nothing was passing them in that video.. and they were passing pretty much everybody. Good driving, too. Shame it broke on 'em.
@dculberson: I think they should replace the busted DOHC motor with the plain ol' SOHC unit out of a Crown Vic- maybe 50 fewer horses, but way more reliability.
@dculberson: It looked like it was just sooo much faster on the straights. Held on in the corners then a straight would come and everyone else went backwards.
@Murilee Martin: How'd their motor die? As I recall, the rule of thumb with the InTech is replace chains early and often.
@ummagumma82: There were a few inches of length, too, that the FN-10 had over the MN-12. I've driven both. MN-12 feels spritelier, yet the Mark VIIIs are spritelier.
@zsvdkhnorc: Having driven both of the hottest MN-12s (I had a 92 T-Bird S/C 5-speed, my father had a 96 Mk VIII LSC) I would say you are about right. The S/C might run away from the LSC in the turns, but it would be pretty close on the highway. The air suspension in the LSC is deceiving. The S/C still had more torque 315 vs. 285.
Step 1: Tease devoted Jalops with Cayman shape altered to alienates even clown shoe pilots.
Step 2: Release 928 successor with similar shape on Panamera platform instead, to the relief of most and the dismay of a few.
Step 3: Profit.
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Guys, good work...all around.
If it wouldn't screw things up, I'd lobby for a LeMons reality show. Real reality, too. Sometimes the oddly-timed spontaneous shit is the funniest.
That Lincoln's engine is incredible sounding...when it's mobile. Though it sounds like they locked the transmission in 2nd gear, which I can understand the logic, but it'd be even quicker, while moving, if it could hit third.
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I have two Mark VIIIs and I love 'em. That's pretty much what they sound and act like from the factory; the engine is (thankfully) surprisingly loud, and it pulls like crazy past 3000 rpm. Reliability is decent for a high-tech domestic car, but of course that's not saying a whole lot. Unless overheated, the engine is absolutely bulletproof, though.
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I feel less-bad about considering these as a beater-car replacement last January.
A new Baby Beater-Benz beat it.
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Go Dirty Drifters!
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And while I knew LeMons was the fasting growing motorsport in the universe, it never dawned on me that applicants actually get rejected. Like paulmer below, I too wonder the most common cause of rejection. For me, it's usually due to social awkwardness.
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It's definitely a pipedream, but I want to race an E32 750 in 24HoL..perhaps I shall call my team Serious Business Racing :D
would be epic, 332ft-lb of torque in a lightened chassis tearing around the track, passing all who stand in the way
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i'm a giant bmw nerd, and i love that v12 engine, but i don't have the heuvos to bring one racing :)
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There is one Mark VIII that still has the engine but that thing has 80K miles of leaky oil cooler smothered all over everything.
09/20/09
It's not an engine covered in oil gunk... Dude, it's externally-lubricated!!!
See, this makes it faster/easier to remove/replace when time is of-the-essence.
Seriously, though, there is an LSC I see, daily, which is on flat suspension, and looks as if it hasn't moved in a year, at least.
If I manage to hit a lottery, I'm gonna buy that LSC, the 1968 300 convertible on the same lot, and both 1981 square-trunk Imperials he has...just for fun.
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Well, actually for me it paid off the first time I saw my dad get out of his then-new green-over-white leather Mark VIII wearing a full length leather coat and a fur hat, despite the fact that my father is not (to my knowledge) a pimp.
But now it's really paid off for everyone else.
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@ummagumma82: There were a few inches of length, too, that the FN-10 had over the MN-12. I've driven both. MN-12 feels spritelier, yet the Mark VIIIs are spritelier.
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Step 2: Release 928 successor with similar shape on Panamera platform instead, to the relief of most and the dismay of a few.
Step 3: Profit.
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