Local dealer has a G8 GXP automatic but wants MSRP for it.
He will sit on that car until he gets MSRP. I told him that is one reason Pontiac is no more. If the cars aren't being sold, GM isn't making a new one to replace them.
I have never paid MSRP for any car. At that price, I could get a Taurus SHO with AWD.
@Karl Bellve: "He will sit on that car until he gets MSRP."
And why shouldn't he? He knows that buyers are trying to snag the last of these as collectors. I wouldn't be surprised if he had added AMV markup to it.
The Solstice is a decent looking coupe, and will probably be collectible, but a person looking for something to drive would do much better buying any number of other cars, such as a 370z. And for someone looking to invest in something, any number of indexed funds would be a much better choice at this point.
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In 1984, I could have bought the last unsold '79 Bultaco Streaker to sit on a dealer's floor for $1500. I was a SP4 in the Army and didn't think I could put the money together. The truth was, I was living in the barracks and didn't have to pay a dime for rent, food or transportation to work. I have regretted my stupidity ever since.
I am just now wondering — in 25 years, will I be telling someone about reading this article?
The only Pontiac dealership in my town closed its doors a couple months back. As did the other GM dealer. Now I've gotta drive over 150 miles to get a G8?
Where the heck is 'from.a.buick'? Wasn't he saying these things didn't sell? I don't care anymore. I tried to buy one, and got dicked around. I won't be back. I will buy another BMW, Audi, VW, or maybe a Suburu, because they build a car with the kind of transmission, and the kind of engine, and the kind of drive that I want... ALL IN THE SAME CAR!!!! It really works wonders for sales, when you build a car that people really aspire to buy. GM should try it.
Why? Why would someone want to buy a car from a make they know isn't going to be around? I can't imagine there was a rush on Ramblers, Nashs, Yugos, etc.
Sorry guys, but the G8 GXPs have been sold out for months. Trust me, I looked. To be fair, I don't think the $8k manual option is really worth it. I know it goes against all things Jalopnik, but the G8 GT drives just fine, and the extra 50 horses doesn't justify the extra $8k expense.
@maximum-sienna can't comment 9 out of 10 times: I got those extra 50 by doing $750 worth of mods. No, I didn't get the better suspension or a manual, but really, $8k? That's too much. I do wish I had a manual though, but the GXP wasn't even around last year.
@G8-167/Super Aguri: Given that the G8 GT is roughly equivalent to the Commedore SS, I'm wondering how hard or expensive it'd be to ship the assorted manual components from Australia.
@maximum-sienna can't comment 9 out of 10 times: I see your point but this is a slippery slope. I drove a G8 GT and was semi-impressed, but wondered how much you really gain over a CamCord, which has nearly 300 horses these days and gets even BETTER mileage (The G8 GT didn't crack 20 mpg under my foot). The GXP obviously blows all CamCords away, has a huge advantage with its manual transmission, and justifies its poor efficiency with general bad-assedness. In for a penny, in for a pound.
This comment is going to be unpopular, but I will continue regardless...
As an outsider of the North American market, all I see is a Chevrolet with a big engine, and some sporty looks.This may be a very fun car, but I think its place in the market is filled by the CTS-V. Sure it's an expensive car, but these days only the rich can afford the luxury of a car with some soul.
Unfortunately, in these economic times what people want (and need) are appliances: bland, reliable, frugal cars are the ones that are easy to sell and hold their value well. Thus, I don't think GM (who of all companies cannot afford 'fun' projects) would be making the wrong decision in cancelling the G8 for now.
However, what I don't understand is why they would do a limited run. It's the worst of both worlds: you are using valuable capital for designing and building dies and parts, plus holding up a factory which could be building more popular cars. At the same time you're raising the cost of building the G8 (because you don't get the economies of scale), making an affordable sports car less affordable.
@Dhillaz 2.0: Nobody wants an appliance. Also, cars with soul are not just for the affluent.
As far as business a business argument; the dies, engineering, parts, are already completed. So really there's really no more invested capital being used. It's all just operating costs.
@Miscellanea's brakes are squealing: Thanks for the clarification, I shouldn't have really dived into an argument about a car I know nothing about.
But as TriShield has mentioned, the cars aren't shifting...so surely the production is a waste of floorspace.
@Maymar: Yes, I agree with your comparison, but the difference is that Volkswagen is still in the black so they can afford it, and the GTI has a huge history (under the same namebadge). GM really shouldn't be taking any risks in my opinion. I hope they break even on this project.
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He will sit on that car until he gets MSRP. I told him that is one reason Pontiac is no more. If the cars aren't being sold, GM isn't making a new one to replace them.
I have never paid MSRP for any car. At that price, I could get a Taurus SHO with AWD.
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And why shouldn't he? He knows that buyers are trying to snag the last of these as collectors. I wouldn't be surprised if he had added AMV markup to it.
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Define "respectable"?
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At least I am working, albeit at a 40% pay reduction....
/wasn't like I was a six-figure baby, either!
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I am just now wondering — in 25 years, will I be telling someone about reading this article?
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I know, GM's not going under...yet.
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As an outsider of the North American market, all I see is a Chevrolet with a big engine, and some sporty looks.This may be a very fun car, but I think its place in the market is filled by the CTS-V. Sure it's an expensive car, but these days only the rich can afford the luxury of a car with some soul.
Unfortunately, in these economic times what people want (and need) are appliances: bland, reliable, frugal cars are the ones that are easy to sell and hold their value well. Thus, I don't think GM (who of all companies cannot afford 'fun' projects) would be making the wrong decision in cancelling the G8 for now.
However, what I don't understand is why they would do a limited run. It's the worst of both worlds: you are using valuable capital for designing and building dies and parts, plus holding up a factory which could be building more popular cars. At the same time you're raising the cost of building the G8 (because you don't get the economies of scale), making an affordable sports car less affordable.
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As far as business a business argument; the dies, engineering, parts, are already completed. So really there's really no more invested capital being used. It's all just operating costs.
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But as TriShield has mentioned, the cars aren't shifting...so surely the production is a waste of floorspace.
@Maymar: Yes, I agree with your comparison, but the difference is that Volkswagen is still in the black so they can afford it, and the GTI has a huge history (under the same namebadge). GM really shouldn't be taking any risks in my opinion. I hope they break even on this project.