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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    In reply to Jay Leno Says Goodbye To Pontiac
    I can't wait until next month when he writes an article saying goodbye to Chrysler.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/30/09

    In reply to Jay Leno Says Goodbye To Pontiac
    Nice article and all, but it reads like he typed it on his iPhone during a flight delay.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    04/27/09

    In reply to Ten Greatest Pontiacs In NASCAR History
    The early-80's Grand Prix with the funky fastback-esque rear window.


    I've seen only a couple of those on the road, one fairly recently, which was quite a surprise.

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    04/27/09

    @accept it, the global economy is hosed for a while: Then you should read my posts: The CarDomain Obscure Muscle Car Parking Lot. Here is a post on that very Grand Prix!

    [blog.cardomain.com]
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/27/09

    In reply to Ten Greatest Pontiacs In NASCAR History
    The list is OK but the ranking is all wrong.


    It was Fireball Roberts that played a major role in establishing Pontiac as a performance brand. In many ways he was the first NASCAR superstar that received national media exposure. He more than anybody put Pontiac on the map in racing. That's your #1 right there.


    The Petty Pontiac is so important that it's on display at the Smithsonian. Don't think one of Rusty's cars can say that. There's your #2.


    Ol' Ironhead spent almost his entire career driving Chevys. Including him on a top 10 Pontiac drivers list is silly, and clearly the work of one of his minions.


    The Ray Fox Pontiacs were direct competitors to the Smokey Yunick cars built for Fireball Roberts. They deserve to be higher on the list than eighth.

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    Image of Fauxhemian Fauxhemian
    04/27/09

    In reply to Ten Greatest Pontiacs In NASCAR History
    Petty's Superbird. Probably the greatest.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    04/27/09

    @japanfor:


    I'm thinkin ya got yer P-brands mixed up, pard.

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    Image of .357 .357
    04/27/09

    @japanfor: Plymouth
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/27/09

    @Uncle Bo: He meant '70 (the Roadrunner version of the Charger Daytona) rather than a T-bird SC.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/27/09

    @.357: Oh, we weren't talking Plymouth. Fucking hell.


    I always think this is Mopar Time.

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    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    04/27/09

    In reply to Pontiac Vibe, Solstice Are Dead, Won't Live On As Chevys
    Well, given that Chevy already has the HHR and a good variety of soft-roaders, I don't think the Vibe will be missed too much. It's not like the new Vibe still has the screaming Yamaha engine available anymore.


    But for the Solstace... that's too bad... but again... somewhat redundant due to the Camaro.


    But it would have been nice to see the Solstace get turned into a Chevy and they call it the Chevrolet Monza... and make coupe, convertible and sedan versions... it would be a unique product... a small car for people who care more about performance and rwd feel... and then the basis of that would be used for a Cadillac 3-series competitor.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/27/09

    @petersterncan: We could call it "Cimarron"!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/27/09

    In reply to Pontiac Vibe, Solstice Are Dead, Won't Live On As Chevys
    Funny: the first-gen Matrix was far worse than the Vibe, but the new Vibe looks just as bloated as the Matrix.


    I dun get it.

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/27/09

    In reply to Pontiac Vibe, Solstice Are Dead, Won't Live On As Chevys
    So...No Reatta II, then?
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    Image of SundaySunday SundaySunday
    04/27/09

    In reply to Pontiac Vibe, Solstice Are Dead, Won't Live On As Chevys
    I got an idea. With the Solstice going away, take that Kappa platform capacity and build the Chevy Nomad! Yeah, that's the ticket!
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/27/09

    @SundaySunday: Yeah. I bet it would sell at least as well as the SSR did, but then again, what doesn't?
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    Image of SundaySunday SundaySunday
    04/27/09

    In reply to GM To Officially Kill Pontiac, Assembly Plants Today
    Many of my best automotive memories have been Firebird-related:


    1. My mom had the exact same specification Esprit as Jim Rockford's car, camel w/camel interior, 1978. The best was the "S" in the gear selector that made that thing roar.


    2. A good friend of mine had a '94 6-cylinder, and despite the smaller engine, it still had a great exhaust note and was a fun ride, esp. with the T-tops removed.


    3. I got to thrash a 6-speed WS6 that my former manager borrowed from GM Systems Engineering once in the mid '90s. Got it up to 65 mph in a very short distance on Big Beaver Road before the fear of an impound and the negative effect that would have on my career took over.


    Good times. I shall wear my screaming chicken baseball hat today in fond remembrance of a once great nameplate.

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    Image of Cadavillac Cadavillac
    04/27/09

    In reply to GM To Officially Kill Pontiac, Assembly Plants Today
    Welcome to 2000 when GM phased out Oldsmobile... right after finally giving it some seriously good products. The Alero had the Malibu and Grand Am trumped for style and interior quality. The Intrigue was hands down the best of the last generation W-bodies, including the LaCrosse. The second generation Aurora had the best designed and highest quality interior of anything else in the domestic stable--including anything from Cadillac. And the first-gen Aurora? Aside from the new CTS, it's still (in my opinion) the best looking upscale sedan from the General.


    A few years down the road none of us will be very troubled over the loss of Pontiac.

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/27/09

    @Cadavillac: I'm still pretty bitter about Olds. To each his own?
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    04/27/09

    In reply to GM To Officially Kill Pontiac, Assembly Plants Today
    Since this seems to be the place to post our Pontiac eulogies:


    The 301 Poncho engine in my 1978 Buick LeSabre was my only exposure to Pontiac ownership. Calling that engine a piece of crap would be the kindest thing I could say about it. It had no guts at all, was constantly burning and leaking oil, and would never stay in tune. It was the worst engine I've owned by a mile, and I drive a HYUNDAI so that's saying something.


    That's all I got.

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    Image of chucchinchilla chucchinchilla
    04/27/09

    In reply to GM To Officially Kill Pontiac, Assembly Plants Today
    They still retain the right to revive the brand later on in better times...
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/27/09

    @chucchinchilla: Don't hold your breath because you'll, like, die and stuff.
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    Image of Bullitt417 Bullitt417
    04/27/09

    In reply to Pontiac Vibe, Solstice Are Dead, Won't Live On As Chevys
    So question...to quote Toyota's commercial how does "toyotas quality save you money" if its made by GM? Also, I'm really surprised the solstice/sky will not live on. While I was always more of a fan of the Sky, and even though I know the cars completely missed their Miata benchmarks in terms of fun to drive, I thought that the platform would still be used considering the cash spent to develop it.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/27/09

    @Bullitt417: Toyota's quality has gone from "holy shit that's incredible" to "meh, it's a bit above average, and you guys got the hybrid system down pat" in the last decade. On the bright side, they no longer rust on the dealer's lot.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    04/27/09

    In reply to GM To Officially Kill Pontiac, Assembly Plants Today
    my Grand Am wept this weekend at the news.


    No seriously, it's got a massive seal leak in the firewall. there's standing water on the floorboard.


    stupid f-ing 90's GM quality messing up my nostalgia.

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