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    Image of tad49 tad49
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    GM is doomed. In Aus, we have a revolving door on GMH headquarters, IE 3 or 4 CEO's in same number of years! AND they keep sending bloody Yanks! Other than the Commodore, they keep trying to sell us white goods from Thailand/Korea. Ford has woken up to this & dropped their Korean shit & now sell proper small cars here. As I said, GM is finished! Take note.
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    Ok, seriously guys... What is the point of torturing us by needlessly and constantly reminding us that we will never get the G8 ute. Hey, news flash, Americans: Australia has all the cool RWD cars, cool engines (straight 6's, etc), cool neo-Caminos, that we will never get - but on the plus side, you can have a rebadged Daewoo shitbox. Oh wait, but we're against rebadging. Hmmm...
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    10/01/09

    @Muscles Marinara: "I am not a fan of rebadging" is the new "I am not a crook".
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    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    How much of a bribe do I need to pay Ivy Wong to import one of these?
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    I guess I wrote this under the wagon picture the first time, my bad.

    I really do like wagons, and I really don't like an overpowering government regulation.... so I'm torn.

    Is there a chance, that with increased CAFE requirements that we're going to be seeing more "real" wagons?

    I can't enjoy that, because then the ends would justify the means, and that's not right..... so secretly, I'll just be happy to see more of them on the streets.

    (of course this is all irrelevant because this is yet another wagon that's not coming to the USA, but it got me thinkin)

    (oh, and I'm on a boring conference call, so I needed to do something slightly more productive)
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    10/01/09

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: Most 'tall-wagon' crossovers are considered 'trucks' for CAFE purposes. The Magnum was a 'truck'. So is the PT Cruiser. This is also apparently where the folks responsible for NA*OTY get their definitions.
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    Image of CorporateFelon CorporateFelon
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    I love a good looking wagon. And that side profile is really nice, but I wonder what the rear end looks like. Very few manufacturers put in the time and effort to design the wagon properly. It is usually an afterthought.
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    10/01/09

    @CorporateFelon: The new Cadillac is promising. But after reading your comment I got to thinking about it and I'm inclined to agree with you overall. Must be the hatch that gives 'em fits. Worst offenders to me are the Lambdas but the Traverse almost works.
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    Image of bzr bzr
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    This is proof that GM is unAmerican. Senator McCarthy should bring them before the HUAC.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    V is for "stop waving it in our faces, you assholes, and replace your Reagan-Era full-size marshmallow with a real sedan, like, say, THIS ONE".

    Oh, that doesn't start with a V?
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    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    GM is just plain stupid for not bringing these cars here. How many of us LUST for these kind of cars, yet we keep getting rejected and given bland POS's like the frikken Impala. Now that the Pontiac brand is gone, there is no current car that I would ever consider buying from them, except the Corvette.

    This goes the same for Ford. Their cars have been bland for years, except for the Mustang and the GT. We YEARN to see sedans like the Aussie Falcon on our streets, V8 powered muscle sedans.

    Yeah, I know that we all need commuter cars, so 4-pot camrys and accords and malbus and fusions and on and on will always dominate the dealer lots. It is a sad time we live in.
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    Maymar promoted this comment baldy_pm was starred baldy_pm was unstarred
    Image of Maymar Maymar
    10/01/09

    @baldy_pm: Did you buy a G8 when you had the chance? Did you know that they rarely sold more than 3000 G8s per month, and at one point, had about 11,000 unsold cars (roughly a third of production)? I'm sure you knew that every G8 had the expensive, profit-sucking journey over from Australia before it ended up in showrooms, and that a Commodore sold for about $10,000 more than a comperable G8.

    Truth be told, we're a small minority compared to the average Camcordima buyer, and the G8 is just one of many cars vying for our attention and our dollar (you know, once it's used). Blame your neighbour that you can't buy a G8, not GM
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    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    10/01/09

    @Maymar: Yes, the G8 and other performance sedans cost alot for the manufacturer to produce. And this understandably raises the sticker price. So, I can understand the reasoning for its departure.

    I believe that Red Blooded American buyers want some sort of performance sedan that oozes with power. The only thing that fits the bill now is the Charger. I will never buy a Chrysler, though.

    Sometime into the future, there will probably be some car that will fill the niche, but not until it is profitable. Until then, I will daydream of these cars, or perhaps just buy a BMW, and satisfy my wants, even though its not American power.
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    Image of Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    I feel like we live in this alternate universe where everything is bad and leading to the apocalypse. Lady Gaga is popular, the Asian-Pacific rim is being destroyed by earth quakes, and the Pontiac G8 with a wagon and 'Camino version are only sold 14,000 miles away.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    Mission Accomplished
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    There's so much IN YOUR FACE about this article I think I might cry.
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    Image of ClickHereForFire ClickHereForFire
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    Now, if they could rebadge the Holden rebadged as a Pontiac rebadged as a Holden as a Chevy....
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    The "V" is for neVer coming to the United States.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    This is proof that they're still a nation of criminals, stealing all of GM's good stuff.
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    10/01/09

    @Alfisted: Actually it's a bit more "what goes around, comes around".
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    Image of diangelo diangelo
    10/01/09

    @Alfisted: So Australia designs it, builds it and exports it, however you say we are stealing it? Just think if your economy didnt collapse into the shitter you may just still have the G8. *plays a little violin for you* HAHAHA!!
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/01/09

    @diangelo: Good on you. I mean steal it in the sense that the Commodore still reports to the General.
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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    10/01/09

    In reply to Holden Commodore SS V-Series Special Edition: "V" Is For Pontiac
    V is for "Vendor contract for a 10 year supply of these effin' nosepieces".
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