I can go down to my local dealer the car one, not the one who thinks his clients are his friends, choose between a wagon, ute or sedan. V8 or V6, in a wide variety of colour and a choice of either manual or auto.
I feel real guilty. Then I think "Where's Australia's Challenger? Where's Australia's Camaro the one the Aussie designed and engineered , Where's our Roush Mustang?
Suddenly I don't feel so bad for my American brothers and sisters.
Still feel a little guilty when I drive past Artarmon Holden & HSV and see what would have been a Pontiac grill now on a Holden. #pontiacg8gxp
@that ain't the way to have fun, son: Those scoops are hideous. I'd go as far as saying they completely ruin the car if it wasn't already ruined by the exact same front clip used by every Pontiac of the last 10 years and incredibly dull ass-end. Nevermind the fact that the interior has no business in a $37,000 car. #pontiacg8gxp
If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was starred
If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was unstarred
For me, this nose goes back to the early generations of Grand Am, which had an expiration date of 1991, and by then, it smelled funny enough to have not needed a date telling you it'd gone bad.
I've seen all of one of these on the road, and what was appealing, though not to many people, is the borderline generic look. This is why I liked the last GTO, pre-scoop skankafication. That, and it's as close to a haul-ass Holden as I'm likely to get.
Oh, and your screen name, alone, deserves a clicky. Nice to see I'm not the only one.... #pontiacg8gxp
GM is doomed. In Aus, we have a revolving door on GMH headquarters, IE 3 or 4 CEO's in same number of years! AND they keep sending bloody Yanks! Other than the Commodore, they keep trying to sell us white goods from Thailand/Korea. Ford has woken up to this & dropped their Korean shit & now sell proper small cars here. As I said, GM is finished! Take note.
Ok, seriously guys... What is the point of torturing us by needlessly and constantly reminding us that we will never get the G8 ute. Hey, news flash, Americans: Australia has all the cool RWD cars, cool engines (straight 6's, etc), cool neo-Caminos, that we will never get - but on the plus side, you can have a rebadged Daewoo shitbox. Oh wait, but we're against rebadging. Hmmm...
I guess I wrote this under the wagon picture the first time, my bad.
I really do like wagons, and I really don't like an overpowering government regulation.... so I'm torn.
Is there a chance, that with increased CAFE requirements that we're going to be seeing more "real" wagons?
I can't enjoy that, because then the ends would justify the means, and that's not right..... so secretly, I'll just be happy to see more of them on the streets.
(of course this is all irrelevant because this is yet another wagon that's not coming to the USA, but it got me thinkin)
(oh, and I'm on a boring conference call, so I needed to do something slightly more productive)
@Lost in the age of Aerostar: Most 'tall-wagon' crossovers are considered 'trucks' for CAFE purposes. The Magnum was a 'truck'. So is the PT Cruiser. This is also apparently where the folks responsible for NA*OTY get their definitions.
I love a good looking wagon. And that side profile is really nice, but I wonder what the rear end looks like. Very few manufacturers put in the time and effort to design the wagon properly. It is usually an afterthought.
@CorporateFelon: The new Cadillac is promising. But after reading your comment I got to thinking about it and I'm inclined to agree with you overall. Must be the hatch that gives 'em fits. Worst offenders to me are the Lambdas but the Traverse almost works.
GM is just plain stupid for not bringing these cars here. How many of us LUST for these kind of cars, yet we keep getting rejected and given bland POS's like the frikken Impala. Now that the Pontiac brand is gone, there is no current car that I would ever consider buying from them, except the Corvette.
This goes the same for Ford. Their cars have been bland for years, except for the Mustang and the GT. We YEARN to see sedans like the Aussie Falcon on our streets, V8 powered muscle sedans.
Yeah, I know that we all need commuter cars, so 4-pot camrys and accords and malbus and fusions and on and on will always dominate the dealer lots. It is a sad time we live in.
@baldy_pm: Did you buy a G8 when you had the chance? Did you know that they rarely sold more than 3000 G8s per month, and at one point, had about 11,000 unsold cars (roughly a third of production)? I'm sure you knew that every G8 had the expensive, profit-sucking journey over from Australia before it ended up in showrooms, and that a Commodore sold for about $10,000 more than a comperable G8.
Truth be told, we're a small minority compared to the average Camcordima buyer, and the G8 is just one of many cars vying for our attention and our dollar (you know, once it's used). Blame your neighbour that you can't buy a G8, not GM
@Maymar: Yes, the G8 and other performance sedans cost alot for the manufacturer to produce. And this understandably raises the sticker price. So, I can understand the reasoning for its departure.
I believe that Red Blooded American buyers want some sort of performance sedan that oozes with power. The only thing that fits the bill now is the Charger. I will never buy a Chrysler, though.
Sometime into the future, there will probably be some car that will fill the niche, but not until it is profitable. Until then, I will daydream of these cars, or perhaps just buy a BMW, and satisfy my wants, even though its not American power.
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11/11/09
I can go down to my local dealer the car one, not the one who thinks his clients are his friends, choose between a wagon, ute or sedan. V8 or V6, in a wide variety of colour and a choice of either manual or auto.
I feel real guilty. Then I think "Where's Australia's Challenger? Where's Australia's Camaro the one the Aussie designed and engineered , Where's our Roush Mustang?
Suddenly I don't feel so bad for my American brothers and sisters.
Still feel a little guilty when I drive past Artarmon Holden & HSV and see what would have been a Pontiac grill now on a Holden. #pontiacg8gxp
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Now...not so much. Plus, there isn't a bogus-ass scoop-delete option.
The Bondo required to fix the excessive holes will significantly affect performance in a negative manner. #pontiacg8gxp
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11/11/09
Yeah! Damned right!
For me, this nose goes back to the early generations of Grand Am, which had an expiration date of 1991, and by then, it smelled funny enough to have not needed a date telling you it'd gone bad.
I've seen all of one of these on the road, and what was appealing, though not to many people, is the borderline generic look. This is why I liked the last GTO, pre-scoop skankafication. That, and it's as close to a haul-ass Holden as I'm likely to get.
Oh, and your screen name, alone, deserves a clicky. Nice to see I'm not the only one.... #pontiacg8gxp
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10/01/09
I really do like wagons, and I really don't like an overpowering government regulation.... so I'm torn.
Is there a chance, that with increased CAFE requirements that we're going to be seeing more "real" wagons?
I can't enjoy that, because then the ends would justify the means, and that's not right..... so secretly, I'll just be happy to see more of them on the streets.
(of course this is all irrelevant because this is yet another wagon that's not coming to the USA, but it got me thinkin)
(oh, and I'm on a boring conference call, so I needed to do something slightly more productive)
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Oh, that doesn't start with a V?
10/01/09
This goes the same for Ford. Their cars have been bland for years, except for the Mustang and the GT. We YEARN to see sedans like the Aussie Falcon on our streets, V8 powered muscle sedans.
Yeah, I know that we all need commuter cars, so 4-pot camrys and accords and malbus and fusions and on and on will always dominate the dealer lots. It is a sad time we live in.
10/01/09
Truth be told, we're a small minority compared to the average Camcordima buyer, and the G8 is just one of many cars vying for our attention and our dollar (you know, once it's used). Blame your neighbour that you can't buy a G8, not GM
10/01/09
I believe that Red Blooded American buyers want some sort of performance sedan that oozes with power. The only thing that fits the bill now is the Charger. I will never buy a Chrysler, though.
Sometime into the future, there will probably be some car that will fill the niche, but not until it is profitable. Until then, I will daydream of these cars, or perhaps just buy a BMW, and satisfy my wants, even though its not American power.