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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/18/09

    In reply to Abu Dhabi Gets A Nissan GT-R Police Car
    Officer Ali Al Houn is reportedly quite pleased with his new patrol car.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/18/09

    In reply to Abu Dhabi Gets A Nissan GT-R Police Car

    My cop car can go faster than your cop car!
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/18/09


    @skaycog.2000: This sort of thing might be cooler.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/18/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Where did you get that? I've never seen it....I have goosebumps. Thank you, thank you!!!! Do you want to go steady? I have to leave now for a few hours....I'll be back!
    AWESOME!!!
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    11/18/09


    @skaycog.2000: Another angle. With steelies this time.

    #tips
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/18/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Second photo is even better! Are they photoshopped? Is the first one a toy? Where did you get them?
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    11/19/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: You're going to keep this a secret, aren't you?
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    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: There is no secret. Just plain ol' Google image search. [images.google.com]

    #tips
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Thanks...you're a good sport. I use bing search, but evidently google has more images. Thank you; it was fun!
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/18/09

    In reply to Abu Dhabi Gets A Nissan GT-R Police Car
    GT-R cop car in Abu Dhabi? Well, Yhaba Dhaba Du.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    11/18/09

    In reply to Abu Dhabi Gets A Nissan GT-R Police Car
    The perfect tool for chasing down fornicators, transvestites, gays, and casual drug users, so as not to offend all the foreign investment by people who aren't really bothered by any of those things.
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    Image of ooqooʞɐɾ_Is upside down! ooqooʞɐɾ_Is upside down!
    11/18/09

    @Anodized Screw Head #78: And women drivers. Don't forget the women drivers.
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    11/18/09

    @ooqooʞɐɾ_Is upside down!: Actually women drivers are legal in the UAE. I think.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/18/09

    In reply to Abu Dhabi Gets A Nissan GT-R Police Car
    Well, now I want to know a Crown Vic's ring time.

    Still, my first reaction when seeing this was that if there's anywhere that needed something like this, it's the UAE. But then I'd imagine anything this is needed to catch, it'd be driven by someone who'll easily pay off the fine, followed by building a skyscraper in the shape of Christopher Walken, just because.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/15/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Hopefully the new Interceptor will be up to the durability standards of the Crown Vic.

    We spent some serious time over the weekend trying to kill one and let me tell you, it wasn't easy. It just kept going.

    It finally took lots of fire and several rifle rounds to make it officially dead. This was after many hours of Davidsfarm levels of hooning.

    Long live the Vic. #policecars
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    If they're smart, CV cop accessories will fit on the new one and cabbies and grampa will be able to buy them, too. Otherwise, they're better off riding the CV tooling 'til the end of the petroleum age. #policecars
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    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Boss engine? I will be attending police auctions in 2014. #policecars
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    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    I hear that brought Shatner in to slide across the hood, just to make sure that its up to snuff. #policecars
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    area_educator promoted this comment PHIL was starred PHIL was unstarred
    Image of iantm iantm
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Being friends with a local police chief, and working as a mechanic, I've had the opportunity to drive some of the current cop cars - Having driven the impala, the explorer, the cvpi, and the charger (well only the cop spec hemi),

    I can say that the cvpi is by and large the most comfortable of all and probably the best all purpose cruiser. That said, the Charger is an amazing cop car with its power and handling. The Impala, well, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

    But the biggest reason the CVPI has had such staying power is because of the fact that lightbars, cop electronics, and such that were bought in the early-mid 90's are still useable. Most agencies just don't have the money to spend on everything new all at one shot. This is actually one of the reasons why the PA State Police stuck with the CVPI even with the advent of the Magnum and Charger.

    The other big variable that has helped the CVPI stay so popular is that they are dirt cheap compared to the other cop cars out there - a cop spec ecoboost taurus (yes, this was the initial proposed CVPI replacement) was going to cost close to $40k - enough outrage from law enforcement - and a new Interceptor wasn't just inevitable, but a good decision from Ford.

    Local muni's can buy CVPI's for around $16-17k - a hemi charger is in the mid $20k's, with a v6 charger around $18k. Factor in repair costs like wheels - $100 for a CVPI, $250 for a Charger. It's no surprise that the CVPI has become the staple that it is.

    Heck, some of the cop spec car prep companies have been trying to sell Ford Edge's as cop cars - but the take rate has been low.

    Unfortunately, the best analogy I can come up with is a computer one - you use Windows, and in order to keep going with a new computer, you have to buy a whole new set of software - do you buy another pc and all the software, or do you go mac? #policecars
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    11/13/09

    @iantm: Right on - I live in a small suburban township that makes its living off of speeding tix. The CV is and always will be king 'cause we can find decent replacements from the big city guys for less than $10 grand. #policecars
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    Image of Coreboy Coreboy
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Well... From a junkie fool POV, I hope it sucks. #policecars
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    Image of usa1 usa1
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Cop cars need to be RWD because... ? Thought so. #policecars
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment usa1 was starred usa1 was unstarred
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    11/13/09

    @usa1: Well, the drivetrain is simpler than FWD.

    I can see drive axles being snapped aplenty in certain po-leece departments.

    Plus, it's less-expensive to produce when you're using old-tech. Well, usually less-expensive. #policecars
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    11/13/09

    @usa1: Pursuit driving style that is geared towards RWD handling characteristics. Greater durability under abusive driving. Ease of repair and component replacement. These cop Crown Vics and their taxi and Town Car counterparts can be made to run forever because the setup is so familiar and because the components are modular and can easily be swapped out. #policecars
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    Image of The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd.
    11/13/09

    @usa1: Cop use

    I would refer you to last Saturday's episode of COPS (as aired on Fox).

    During a chase we see the Crown Vic's hopping medians as they swerve around traffic and sparks flying off the diffs as they scrape the medians.

    The perp in his front drive Mistu tried this and ended the chase by wrecking his tires/steering.

    Pursuit vehicles have a robustness requirement beyond simply driving a lot on roads.

    The packaging of rwd relative to fwd allows for "beefier" components with fewer moving parts/stress points.

    "Thought so"
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    bzr promoted this comment Edited by The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. at 11/13/09 1:55 PM The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. was starred The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. was unstarred
    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/13/09

    @The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd.: I watched the same episode and thought: 'Wow... cop cars can hop curbs and crims in econo-boxes can't. Stupid crims!' #policecars
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/13/09

    @Muscles Marinara: Really, I think it all comes to the matrix of durability and price. Pursuit is a tiny (and diminishing) percentage of what patrol cars are called on to do. The other thing is that, pursuit school or no, the average cop is a lousy driver who would be substantially better off in a chase with a FWD understeer monster. #policecars
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    11/13/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: the average cop is a lousy driver who would be substantially better off in a chase with a FWD understeer monster
    well, speaking from experience as someone who once had to ride in a cop car in the middle of a snowstorm, you may have a point there. #policecars
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    11/16/09

    @The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd.:

    So we really need cops cars that can hop medians, hit pedestrians, and hit other cars and keep on running. Got it. Amazing how they live without them in the rest of the world. #policecars
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    Image of The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd. The Dead Inside Grp. Co. Ltd.
    11/16/09

    @usa1: You got it buddy.

    Much of the rest of the world use Falcons/Commodores/trucks/CVPIs.

    Plus look to the designed urban sprawl of America and how police forces have been designed around it. It would be different if there were 400 year cobblestoned city centres with carriage sized streets.

    Part of the police business model is having cheap cars that can handle the terrain, engage in high speed pursuits, and carry a pile of gear . 1.6 Diesel Astras wouldn't work here, unfortunately.

    Not saying the CVPI is the best application - could be much improved - but, at a base level, it does meet some needs. #policecars
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    Image of 67firebird454 67firebird454
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    The police don't need higher performance. It would just mean people would have to drive a faster car/motorcycle to get away, more expenses for the taxpayers, and they're already given a car to drive, license to carry a concealed weapon, buy a Glock as a tax write-off, implied rights to break laws to enforce them, and now we'll pay for them to go drifting... Not to mention every Crown Vic, American SUV that tailgates, amongst other cars, could be a police officer now. Driving should involve more focus on the road than looking for the police in fear of a ticket that makes your insurance go up... #policecars
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    11/13/09

    @67firebird454: You realize that the police do more than just watch the roads, right? And in doing the other protect and serve type things, they need to move around the community, sometimes even quickly. So a more fuel efficient (saving tax dollars), reliable (also saving money), safer, and faster car would be desirable. #policecars
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    11/13/09

    @cabjf: When I was back home this past summer, it was a month before I saw a cop car that wasn't running a speed trap.

    In Atlanta, at least, the cops did things besides watch the road right up until revenue became a concern. #policecars
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    I wonder if the Falcon is really big enough to compete with the Charger and Caprice as an American cop car. I know it's classified as a full-size, but it's actually quite a bit smaller in every meaningful dimension than both the Caprice and Charger and the outgoing Crown Vic. The Charger has almost 10 inches of wheelbase on the Falcon, which means that back seat would be even more impossibly cramped than the Crown Vic's. I feel they would at least have to stretch the platform. Either way, "Engineered in America" makes it sound like this will be a new model. I don't see anything in the press release to discount a new version of the Panther platform, but - just throwin it out there - what if it's based on the S197 platform, like those 4 door Mustangs they were supposed to make. #policecars
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    Image of Seasonone Seasonone
    11/13/09

    In reply to Hello, Officer: Ford Announces New Police Interceptor For 2011
    Looks like the same bloated vic with a facelift that still couldn't catch a 2.5 Impreza if it decided to run. At least they can harass minorities in style now! #policecars
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    bzr promoted this comment Seasonone was starred Seasonone was unstarred
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    11/13/09

    @Seasonone: It's fun to comment on entries without reading them, isn't it? #policecars
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