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    Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet

    Is This The Toyota Prius Wagon?

    Fisker Granted $528 Million Loan By Feds To Develop “Low-Cost” Plug-In Hybrid

    How To Plug In Your Chevy Volt

    Volvo Jumps On Plug-In Hybrid Bandwagon

    Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid: Quick Drive

    Johnson Controls RE3 Concept: Another Boutique Plug-In Electric Hybrid Debuts In Detroit

    Honda Thinks Plug-In Technology Not Yet Up To Task

    Toyota Cries Foul On Volt Tax Breaks

    Toyota Launches UK Trials Of Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    It's cool. I've developed a new hybrid engine that runs off of tired memes and free porn.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    One isn't a problem. A million could be a gigantic problem.

    It all depends on the rate of uptake, and the effort made to adapt the grid, and to incorporate new power sources - like solar and wind - while continuing to conserve electrical usage in other ways.
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    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: There's also the issue of different regional power grids having different capacities. In the Northwest and California, there is actually a lot of excess generation capacity, especially at night. The western states have all spent the last 30 years pushing for energy-efficient everything, so while peak power usage may be really high, the night-time loads are low. The eastern seaboard and the midwest tends to have a smaller difference between peak and base load power usage, so they'd be less able to absorb a lot of cars charging overnight.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Tyson was starred Tyson was unstarred
    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    "Overall, a plug-in hybrid doesn't look much different to the grid than four or five flat screen TV's running at the same time"

    Which they just banned in Kalifornia...

    [latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Er, there's nothing in there about banning anything, they're setting setting limits on the amount of watts consumed per square inch of screen surface. Kinda like CAFE, PZEV, ULEV, IIHS, FMVSS, and NCAP standards for cars.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Which BAN new cars from being sold that don't meet those standards...
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Nooooooo, which force automakers to hit an average target of fuel economy and reach a baseline of safety requirements or pay a fine.

    You can't think Ferrari, MBUSA, BMW, Lamborghini and Porsche hit CAFE or PZEV requirements in their most lucrative market, they just pay the fine and pass it along to their consumers.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Fair enough. The only correction I'd make to your statement is that it is a tax, because that's what it really is.
    Granted, it is a state government, so they do have more power to micro-manage, it still doesn't deserve the power to charge you more for paying for more electricity or gas or w/e.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Move there, run for office, change the laws. If you don't like something fix it. Welcome to America.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    I'm making a prediction - I bet that once the plug-ins are available, the uber greenies (hippies) will abandon their Priuses (Prii?) en mass, and be early-adopters of the new tech. That being the case, we don't have to worry about the electrical grid being overloaded.

    However, the "smug coefficient" will go thru the fucking roof.

    If you thought the Prius attitude was sickening, wait for these environmental heros (holier-than-thou a-holes) to get their sweaty, granola-covered mitts on these cars, then just sit back and watch the wretching...
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    Ben Wojdyla promoted this comment Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/24/09 2:54 PM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: You do know there's a plug-in Prius coming very shortly don't you?
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: A p-p-plug in P-P-Prius?? *gasp* Ack... *thud*
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    Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/24/09 8:13 PM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Oy. Smug reaches critical mass...
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Make it a proprietary plug that supplies power between midnight and six.
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    Image of sandbeige sandbeige
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
    Benjamin: Yes, I am.
    Mr. McGuire: Extension cords
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    gĂĽnter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi promoted this comment sandbeige was starred sandbeige was unstarred
    Image of Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Jalop shhhhh, don't say this. If we scare the general population we can actually get smart grids here in the US and save on our electricity bill at home that we use to power up our power tools and watch rally car wrecks on our 50" plasmas.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    \Cartman

    Goddamned hippies

    /Cartman
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    Image of zacarious zacarious
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    However, they will kill your motoring soul.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/16/09

    In reply to Is This The Toyota Prius Wagon?
    Well, at least I can tell it apart from the Insight now. ZipCar will probably buy a few thousand for starters.
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    Edited by Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet at 11/16/09 4:11 PM Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was starred Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was unstarred
    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/16/09

    In reply to Is This The Toyota Prius Wagon?

    You mean "Is this the NEXT Toyota Prius Wagon"... #toyotaprius
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    11/16/09

    @KeyserSoze: If you cover it with blankets and fertilizer over the winter, some strains of Prius will exude a new mid-section every year. Some biodynamic hippy growers are predicting an 11-door Prius by 2013. #toyotaprius
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/16/09

    @skierpage: I assume you're talking about non-chemical non-commercially available fertilizer right? i.e. compost? (cover the Prius in shit to make it grow new doors...) #toyotaprius
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    11/16/09

    In reply to Is This The Toyota Prius Wagon?
    Not bad. I'm a fan of the Ford S-max, C-max, and Mazda5, and this appears to be in the same stylistic arena. But I'd love it to be a minivan people carrier and not just a regular wagon, if possible.

    Hey, if I'm gonna drive frumpy, give me maximum utility ;) #toyotaprius
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    11/16/09

    In reply to Is This The Toyota Prius Wagon?
    I don't really like how the normal Prius looks like, but this wagon is incredibly ugly. It would be smart to introduce one (in Europe), because it'll make it a lot more popular. If it looked better. #toyotaprius
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    11/16/09

    @duurtlang: Toyota is already going to introduce the 5-door hatchback Toyota Auris HSD with the Prius powertrain in Europe in 2010, since 5-door hatchbacks are the most popular car style in Europe. It looks much like the current Auris, an inoffensive Euro-Japanese design. It appears it will get slightly worse mpg thanks to the less aerodynamic shape. #toyotaprius
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    09/23/09

    In reply to Fisker Granted $528 Million Loan By Feds To Develop “Low-Cost” Plug-In Hybrid
    I thought Fisker was a Finnish company. Why aren't they providing the loan?

    But then I see Fisker is based in California, no doubt to benefit from US government handouts.

    What sucks is that this thing wont even be manufactured in the US; it's going to be build in Finland. So much for creating American jobs.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/22/09

    In reply to Fisker Granted $528 Million Loan By Feds To Develop “Low-Cost” Plug-In Hybrid
    I like the lines of the Panamerikarma... wonder how their electro-box will look? I'm not a big fan of their proposed price tag, though - nor that of the VaporVolt... maybe someday these car companies will figure out that you can already get an electric forklift that has more Mean power demands than any electric car needs - plus enough torque to lift several thousand pounds - for less than what they're proposing to build their electric cars for, and decide that they can do it for less.
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 09/22/09 10:14 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of skierpage skierpage
    09/23/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: That's an instructive, but poor, comparison. Electric forklifts have low speeds with occasional bursts of power, and it's a benefit if their battery packs weighs more than a ton. (Crown 4500: max speed 10 mph, battery weighs up to 4000 pounds!).

    Hydrogen fuel cells from Ballard and Hydrogenics are already a reality for fork lifts, they claim benefits in eliminating the space, time, and hassle of recharging and swapping out hefty battery packs in a 24-hour operation.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    09/23/09

    @skierpage: It's certainly not an apples-to-apples comparison, nor was it intended to be... it was just there to illustrate that a level of price efficiency for a certain sector of electric powered vehicles - that are far from toys, by the way - has already been attained, so it seems senseless that they can't get there with regard to pricing for electric cars.

    Different purposes, different engineering, yes - but ferpetessakes, the car industry has been working on this for many, many years now & seem to not have made much progress on it.
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