Imhoff's got stones. He built a supercar and then puts his own butt on the line when he climbs in and fires it up.
But let's be very real - if Ken screws up, he doesn't fall out of the sky. Engine quits, you just step out, swear a few times and flip open the phone for AAA. If O'Hara has a sudden headslap moment - I tied a granny knot in the throttle control cable! - stepping out of the vehicle doesn't happen right away. There may not be time to flip open the phone.
If I could have my druthers I'd want full-scale but that may just be sour grapes talking - I haven't done anything 1/10th this awesome, ever.
My Dad was 17 when the U.S. entered WW II after Pearl Harbor, and while he signed up wanting to go fight, because he already knew how to fly he was made an instructor and never left the States until the war was already over. This caused an amazing amount of bitterness, because they kept telling him they would transfer him to a combat unit, but never did. Only about 20 years ago did he realize this might have been a really good thing.
So he flew a P-38 trainer, a two-seater like the ones pauljones and Ash78 have posted below, and his job was pretty simple: Take the new guy with him for a couple of days while the rest of the class/squadron played "Follow The Leader", then move that guy to his own P-38 at the back of the line. Take the guy that had moved up all the way to right behind him over to HQ, where they would make up a squadron of the other instructors graduates, who would then learn formation flying while getting the last of their hours ferrying themselves and some new planes to the Pacific or European meat-grinders. Grab a new guy, put him in the seat behind him and go scare the hell out of him while trying to ditch the rest of the class. Get him into a plane at the back of the line, and repeat, for one war. Since his bosses didn't really care where he went as long as he got some flight-hours into the guys, he'd just go exploring, all over Arizona, California, Utah and Nevada (he was based in Kingman and Yuma, AZ), even taking his row of ducks deep into Mexico a few times. All this helped a ton when after the war he got a degree in mining engineering and was sent out into the middle of BFE on mining explorations and prospecting trips for Phelps-Dodge.
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@Hart88: According to my Grandpa, they were wonderful to fly. You just had to be really careful in a dive. At a certain speed threshold you couldn't recover and would auger in and the plane got there quickly!
@Brian: The trickiest part with any of these WWII era fighters was at the low and slow end of the envelope. If you could avoid being shot down, the most dangerous part of flying these planes was landing them. Any kind of engine problem on landing or immediately after takeoff was likely to cause a fatal crash.
The P-38 was better in one way because of the tricycle landing gear arrangement, but the twin engines did not improve safety if you lost power in takeoff or landing. The P-38 did not have enough rudder to maneuver with one engine at low speeds. If you lost power at a low speed, even a hiccup, any attempt to change the heading would put the plane into a spin.
@baldheadeddork: Although I think the dive problem mentioned above was more a case of the plane getting close to the sound barrier. Where it would lose its control forces needed to pull it out of the dive.
Im just thinking how small the cockpit was on a full size P38 and what that has to be like on a 2/3 scale one
@Brian: Actually, the whole issue wasn't that it reached Mach 1 in a dive, as a matter of fact, I am fairly certain that never happened. It is called Compressibility. At high speeds, the center of lift moved towards the back of the aircraft, exacerbating a nose-down attitude condition.
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@Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car!: That may be true in that control surfaces were rendered useless before it reached the speed of sound. However, there are many anecdotes of the P-38 producing a sonic boom before cratering.
This is amazing... I'm gonna build a 2/3 scale USS Ronald Reagan in my basement so in case he needs to land somewhere in the Atlantic, he'll have a spot to do so. What a stud. I wonder if he has a transformers edition Camaro...
BTW - Just a note to you young guys (and gals) out there. Yes, there is much that is lost as one ages but there is much that is gained. The blessings of age have been a pleasent surprise to me. There ARE many delights, most astonishing and astounding. And those things lost seem rather trivial.
My grandmother used to say, "The day you stop learning is the day you start dying."
@OldElvis: Home built planes are actually an extremely popular/ cost effective way to fly.
Every year, the EAA convention in Oshkosh, WI is host to hundreds of manufacturers of home-built plane kits and hundreds of thousands of people interested in flying.
Somehow, I don't think this guy put together his P-38 replica from a kit. So badass.
Ray, may I suggest you hire an Editor to focus on Planelopnik? You should really have someone covering this stuff more intensely.
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But let's be very real - if Ken screws up, he doesn't fall out of the sky. Engine quits, you just step out, swear a few times and flip open the phone for AAA. If O'Hara has a sudden headslap moment - I tied a granny knot in the throttle control cable! - stepping out of the vehicle doesn't happen right away. There may not be time to flip open the phone.
If I could have my druthers I'd want full-scale but that may just be sour grapes talking - I haven't done anything 1/10th this awesome, ever.
Mad props, Jim - counter-rotating ones!
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So he flew a P-38 trainer, a two-seater like the ones pauljones and Ash78 have posted below, and his job was pretty simple: Take the new guy with him for a couple of days while the rest of the class/squadron played "Follow The Leader", then move that guy to his own P-38 at the back of the line. Take the guy that had moved up all the way to right behind him over to HQ, where they would make up a squadron of the other instructors graduates, who would then learn formation flying while getting the last of their hours ferrying themselves and some new planes to the Pacific or European meat-grinders. Grab a new guy, put him in the seat behind him and go scare the hell out of him while trying to ditch the rest of the class. Get him into a plane at the back of the line, and repeat, for one war. Since his bosses didn't really care where he went as long as he got some flight-hours into the guys, he'd just go exploring, all over Arizona, California, Utah and Nevada (he was based in Kingman and Yuma, AZ), even taking his row of ducks deep into Mexico a few times. All this helped a ton when after the war he got a degree in mining engineering and was sent out into the middle of BFE on mining explorations and prospecting trips for Phelps-Dodge.
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If the he didn't like such an agreeable chap, I bet he'd think Bob Lutz is a pussy.
You hear that Bob?! Your next A4 Skyhawk better be built by your own hands in your shed out back.
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MiG-15's had the same problem, but it's a lot easier to become crater dust at jet speeds than prop speeds.
P-38 pilots also tended to get cold because the engines were in separate nacelles.
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The P-38 was better in one way because of the tricycle landing gear arrangement, but the twin engines did not improve safety if you lost power in takeoff or landing. The P-38 did not have enough rudder to maneuver with one engine at low speeds. If you lost power at a low speed, even a hiccup, any attempt to change the heading would put the plane into a spin.
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Im just thinking how small the cockpit was on a full size P38 and what that has to be like on a 2/3 scale one
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BTW - Just a note to you young guys (and gals) out there. Yes, there is much that is lost as one ages but there is much that is gained. The blessings of age have been a pleasent surprise to me. There ARE many delights, most astonishing and astounding. And those things lost seem rather trivial.
My grandmother used to say, "The day you stop learning is the day you start dying."
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I have a P-38 too, but it's just a can opener.
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Every year, the EAA convention in Oshkosh, WI is host to hundreds of manufacturers of home-built plane kits and hundreds of thousands of people interested in flying.
Somehow, I don't think this guy put together his P-38 replica from a kit. So badass.
Ray, may I suggest you hire an Editor to focus on Planelopnik? You should really have someone covering this stuff more intensely.
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Mad respect yo.
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