Do you mean to say Ford still has their private jets? Thought they sold the whole fleet?
p.s: Actually automotive and other mfg, logistics companies are the ones who actually make better use of their jets. Try going to plants and facilities located in the middle of bumfu$k no where from time to time. You could spend entire days just trying to get there. My ex-manager at Ford used to visit 2 to 3 different plants solving assembly problems and issues in a single day. It was very cost effective and he could work the whole time he was in the air. Try doing that via commercial jets and rental cars. Do we really want to pay our top people to waste time?
And Ford used to run shuttle between the different manufacturing and engineering centers once a day. And they were always full. Plus they weren't anywhere near as luxurious as people usually think private jets are. Ford had a small fleet of comfortable all business class jets which could seat about 60 or so employees. Nothing opulent or decadent unlike some of the planes banks and investment places have.
Not to say that they are always used for the right purposes (like Mark "Mullet" Fields weekend trips to FL) but still. Of course a better way might be just to lease them out or have time shares. But then again I don't know the costs involved so..
@FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Agree 100%, i saves then a ton of money with increased productivity and allows them to fly directly to the site. Excepts when they take the jet for an afternoon round of golf a couple states away. #planelopnik
I used to work at a small regional bank that had a private jet. The biggest distance between any two branches was 6 hours by car.
When the new owners took over, flight logs indicated that ~80% of the plane's use was completely unnecessary, with most of it in the form of taking executives to a beach house on the FL gulf coast.
That's the exception to the norm (and despicable in a PUBLIC company), but those cases sure do get a lot of attention. #planelopnik
@Ash78, gleaming the cubicle: I had a boss once who would not even rent a car to travel unless he had to, and then it had to be the cheapest possible one. He said his rule was, nothing that he would have to explain if a picture appeared on the front page of the paper. It was a not-for-profit/university affiliated and everyone else thought he was "quaint." #planelopnik
@Novaload: When I was with the same company, I'd usually push to use my own vehicle in exchange for mileage (instead of flying or renting). The company would spend half as much that way, and I'd be able to pocket some money. Win-win. Legitimate source of income when you're underpaid. #planelopnik
@bmoreDLJ: Actually they sort of went far beyond mere private jets. They played a role in helping us fly to the Moon (Saturn rocket boosters). And protect this country(Redstone missiles) . #planelopnik
@Lost in the age of Aerostar: Yep. They did build a bunch of communication satellites and stuff. And of course every one knows about the original Ford Aircraft division. #planelopnik
@Roofy: You mean 'Dreams'? Besides, that footage was from the bad, old days when budget cuts meant they flew trainers (?!) instead of frontline birds. #jets
@AmishJohn: No way, the A-4 Skyhawks from those days weren't trainers, but light attack jets. John McCain flew them in Vietnam. The Blues had stripped-down hot-rod versions, but Skyhawks were generally considered to be flying sports cars. #jets
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There, I fixed it... #planelopnik
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RISE. #planelopnik
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Jets. Pfft. #planelopnik
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Do you mean to say Ford still has their private jets? Thought they sold the whole fleet?
p.s: Actually automotive and other mfg, logistics companies are the ones who actually make better use of their jets. Try going to plants and facilities located in the middle of bumfu$k no where from time to time. You could spend entire days just trying to get there. My ex-manager at Ford used to visit 2 to 3 different plants solving assembly problems and issues in a single day. It was very cost effective and he could work the whole time he was in the air. Try doing that via commercial jets and rental cars. Do we really want to pay our top people to waste time?
And Ford used to run shuttle between the different manufacturing and engineering centers once a day. And they were always full. Plus they weren't anywhere near as luxurious as people usually think private jets are. Ford had a small fleet of comfortable all business class jets which could seat about 60 or so employees. Nothing opulent or decadent unlike some of the planes banks and investment places have.
Not to say that they are always used for the right purposes (like Mark "Mullet" Fields weekend trips to FL) but still. Of course a better way might be just to lease them out or have time shares. But then again I don't know the costs involved so..
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"....bastards." #planelopnik
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When the new owners took over, flight logs indicated that ~80% of the plane's use was completely unnecessary, with most of it in the form of taking executives to a beach house on the FL gulf coast.
That's the exception to the norm (and despicable in a PUBLIC company), but those cases sure do get a lot of attention. #planelopnik
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@bmoreDLJ: Actually they sort of went far beyond mere private jets. They played a role in helping us fly to the Moon (Saturn rocket boosters). And protect this country(Redstone missiles) . #planelopnik
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@bmoreDLJ: The original Saturn I boosters they build. #planelopnik
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@bmoreDLJ: The Redstone missile program. #planelopnik
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@bmoreDLJ: And as part of the ex-DaimlerChrysler Aerospace division they also built a lot of fun toys. #planelopnik
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@Lost in the age of Aerostar: Yep. They did build a bunch of communication satellites and stuff. And of course every one knows about the original Ford Aircraft division. #planelopnik
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Wake me when someone shows up in an AW139. #jalopnikvsgm
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[en.wikipedia.org] #jalopnikvsgm
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