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    1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L

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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    All this, and still no word on a sequel to McBain. Come on Glickenhaus-get your priorities straightened out.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    As usual, in the end, Italy sides with America.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Let's start lining up the Presidential Medal of Freedom for him right now.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Do mind that he won't be able to call it a Ferrari or a Pininfarina or maybe even a P4/5 and can't use the name NART unless he get people to let him use the name.

    And there's like only one major racing organization that'll allow this car to run at a race...
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    11/19/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: It's gonna be more than $500 so LeMons is out.
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    11/19/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: NHRA? It needs more blower and wheelie bars in that case.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Meanwhile, in the Fourth Circle of Hell, Plutus prepares Glickenhaus's bespoke chest-weight for an eternity of jousting with spendthrifts.
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    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: That is rich. Nice.
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    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: This gets my first COTD nomination in a couple of months. Nicely done!
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    10/19/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    An identical twin to the one I drive everyday. 188,000 miles on the clock and still going strong. I do all my own work on it and hope to keep it until I can buy a new Alfa in the USA. Which will hopefully be sooner than later. #alfaromeo
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    10/19/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    The 164 really doesn't do anything for me. It kinda reminds me of the Eagle Premier/Dodge Monaco twins. Plus, it uses a FWD chassis that is shared with several other cars. If I was to look for 4 door Italian Alfa hell from the 80's, it would be a Milano. It's RWD and has the front engine/ rear transaxle configuration that offers better balance than the front drive setup in most 164's.
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    10/19/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    My lust for these cars started after seeing a dark green one in Italy in 89'. The euro bumpers are smaller and the body cladding wasn't as obvious in darker colors. Years later and I nearly bought one but got a GTV-6 instead. They are relatively bulletproof except for the AC stepper motors, earlier digital readouts and timing belts. I still want a 164S but can't rightfully justify it to the commander in chief. #alfaromeo
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    10/19/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    I know of three of those here in Charlottesville, VA. One I have seen since it was new when I was a kid and has been lovingly cared for and one that looks like the paint faded 20 years before it was made. #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    Hopefully with the triumphant return of Alfa, old Alfas like this can actually return to their home, and proper mechanics.

    Or still be typical italian cars and still break down all the time and require massive, hugely expensive, repairs by distraught shade-tree mechanics. #alfaromeo
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    Image of Rupunzell Rupunzell
    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    Back in the day I was torn between purchasing a 164 or SAAB 9000T. Drove both cars, the chassis in the Alfa is biased with a sporty disposition while the SAAB was very much an all around, all weather conditions daily driver. The Alfa has a very sweet V6, while the turbo 4 in the SAAB was economical and durable. The hatch back won me over as it is simply more versatile in ever way over the 164 3 box body. In the end, I choose the 1991, 9000t which is still with me to day as a daily driver nearing 350,000 miles on the original engine and chassis. The 9000t has been with me in driving rain, wheel deep snow and HOT expanses of CA where there is nothing to be seen for miles on end. Ever versatile, ever reliable, ever durable. But, my heart stays with the Alfa for it has much more automotive passion than the SAAB ever will. The 9000T is almost German in it's personality.

    The US never got the Lancia Thema or FIAT Chroma version of this chassis. If the Lancia Thema was available, that would have been my choice over the SAAB. Even more so for the V8 Ferrari powered version of the Lancia Thema 8.32 #alfaromeo
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    Image of SagarikaLumos SagarikaLumos
    10/18/09

    @Rupunzell: I think that a Lancia Thema 8.32 could be effectively simulated by putting a Northstar in a SAAB 9000. The only problem with the 8.32 is that it doesn't have a flat crank, so it doesn't SOUND like a Ferrari, even if it has the engine from one. #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    @SagarikaLumos:
    That is correct, the Lancia 8.32 does not have a flat crank so it does not sound like a Ferrari. The Lancia folks were after smooth, quiet power with a broad torque curve. If the Lancia folks wanted a flat crank V8, they could have easily done so, as with every design, designers choose what the contents are to meet their design goals. There is a lot more to the Lancia 8.32 than just the engine. Main problem with this Lancia and other FWD cars with this much power, is torque steer.

    BTW, there are a few Lancia MonteCarlos with this Ferrari V8 in place of the FIAT/Lancia 4 pot twin cam. #alfaromeo
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    10/19/09

    @Rupunzell: 9000 have equal length half shafts, so no torque steer. #alfaromeo
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    10/19/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet:
    9000T does indeed have torque steer. How do I know, it's been my daily driver since the early 90's. The drive shafts are similar in length, not 100% equal length, how do I know, I have replaced and rebuilt them more than once. #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    None of that rubber-y 'Merican crap that Detroit stuck on the side panels and doors of everything they made in the early 90s/late 80s. #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    Beautiful design, and probably sounds fantastic with that pseudo-fart can.

    But the reliability (or lack thereof) makes 164 ownership a lot less tempting. #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    I'm pretty sure this was the car my ex-neighbor with the engine hoist had. He raced a vintage Alfa, and would let me borrow any tools I needed because I couldn't help myself from mowing his lawn, as it was connected to mine. Super cool guy, why did he have to move? #alfaromeo
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    10/18/09

    In reply to 1991 Alfa Romeo 164 L
    I saw one of these in Scotland. Didn't think twice.

    Should've. #alfaromeo
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