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PatFromGundo
03/30/09

In reply to Tobey Maguire To Play Racing Legend Phil Hill In The Limit
A couple of thoughts:

1. 13 years ago, David Cronenberg wrote a script called "Red Cars" that is the story of Ferrari's 1961 F1 season. Cronenberg is a true believer, and if you've seen "Videodrome" or "Crash," you'll know that if his project ever sees the light of day (unlikely) it won't be your typical car-exploitation pic. (Here's some info:
[www.redcars.it]

2. Tobey McGuire? Strange choice. Here's my suggestion: Eric Bana. Good actor, even looks a little like Phil Hill (in the eyes), and a true car guy. He just directed a documentary called "Love The Beast" about his obsession with his first car, a '74 Ford Falcon which he restored, raced, and crashed in the Targa Tasmania.
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Matt Magill
03/30/09

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you forgot to add that hes producing it

'The Spiderman star will not only act, he will also be producing the film under Maguire Entertainment.'
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
03/30/09

@Matt Magill: Interesting...Hopefully this means he'll be able to overrule people who want comically ginormous explosions and steamy love scenes every 15 minutes.

I wonder if he's spoken to Patrick Dempsey (aka the closest thing we have to a McQueen or Newman right now) about the project. If he hasn't, he probably should, because whatever McDreamy lacks in skills behind the wheel, he purportedly more than makes up for in knowledge and enthusiasm.
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Armand
03/30/09

@Tomsk exists to f*ck with your mind: If Dempsey grows a pencil mustache and slick back his hair, he'll make a passable Graham Hill.
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John Krewson
03/30/09

In reply to Tobey Maguire To Play Racing Legend Phil Hill In The Limit
Actually, he really can act. It's just that he hasn't always done so.

He'd better.

Also, apropos of nothing: obligatory mention of HE'S ON FYAHH! Whew. Sorry, Needed that.
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Kid Twist
03/30/09

In reply to Tobey Maguire To Play Racing Legend Phil Hill In The Limit
Lizzy McGuire would be more believable.
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Ramzilla
03/30/09

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Toby Maguire...Please, could we actually get someone

with talent? Oh no, that would be too hard. It's all

about selling the movie based on the actor's name, and having nothing to do with having a good story line.

It seems that just about how all movies are any more.

Crap story line+high tech effects+no talent actor=

big ticket sales. Run to the movies you stupid sheep.
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bzr
03/30/09

@Ramzilla: Now tell us how you really feel.
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Armand
03/30/09

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If you look at it one way, this might work: Hill was know as a quiet, introspective man-- I think it was Sports Illustrated that likened him to Hamlet-- and a cautious, thoughtful racer, which is why he survived into old age when so many of his colleagues died in fiery wrecks. Tobey Maguire might be kind of nerdy, but he's still pretty talented, and he might be a good choice to capture that side of Phil Hill.

On the other hand, Phil Hill was the sort of man we never seem to see in Hollywood anymore. Even if he didn't have Jean Behra's daredevil tendencies or Count Von Trips's aristocratic swagger, he had passion. Phil Hill was a man who sat in a tiny aluminum missile on skinny tires and put his life on the line every weekend because he loved to drive fast. In the early '50s, he developed ulcers from the stress of racing and retired. Then he came back, because he couldn't imagine life without racing. He watched his friends and colleagues die in crashes, and he still raced because he loved racing. We don't see that sort of attitude in our modern society, even in racing drivers. The only actors who I can think of who might have been able to capture that kind of passion are Steve McQueen and Paul Newman-- and it's no coincidence that they both raced in real life.

I'll keep an open mind about this movie. If they can do justice to the drama of the duel between Hill and Von Trips, they'll have a hell of a story. But if they try too hard, or try to modernize the story somehow, it will just be another sad reminder of what we've all lost since men like Phil Hill and Stirling Moss ruled the racetrack.
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scroggzilla raids again
03/30/09

@Armand Bengle: If they can capture that aspect of Phil's character, then I'm in favor of this film. Spiderman not withstanding, Tobey Maguire can act.
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bzr
03/30/09

@Armand Bengle: Heart-clicky for you. I can't think of a single person in Hollywood who has that sort of passion about anything, much less about auto racing, and would be able to fit the role. Especially now that Paul Newman is gone.
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John Krewson
03/30/09

@Armand Bengle: That's pretty much what I was going to post and say. Very eloquent. Hill was a man of his time, and given his sensitivity, even a little ahead of it. I met him once and came away with the feeling that I had just spent 15 minutes talking to either the world's most literate and articulate racing driver or the world's fastest professor of literature. And he could really wear a loosely-flowing sport-shirt, something I require in a masculine role model.

But this had better be good. Hill was one of my mom's crush objects, so I have a big emotional stake in this film.
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Ralph Wiley Is Poised
03/30/09

@Armand Bengle: " He watched his friends and colleagues die in crashes, and he still raced because he loved racing. We don't see that sort of attitude in our modern society, even in racing drivers."

Ask most of the guys in the safety meeting in that movie how they feel about "that sort of attitude." Oh, sorry, you can't ask most of them. I guess you'll have to ask their widows and children who grew up and grew old without them.
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Armand
03/30/09

@LucidRalphWiley: I never said it was a good idea. Remember that early-'60s book about F1? It was called The Cruel Sport, and with good reason. I'm sure it hurt Phil Hill to think about Ferrari teammates De Portago, Collins, and Von Trips, all of whom died during races. But these guys knew the risks, and did it anyway because they liked to drive fast. I think that level of passion is pretty impressive.
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domino
03/30/09

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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lilwillie
03/30/09

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Tobey isn't man enough, I need to threadjack

////Threadjack

What the heck should I offer for this, it fell in my lap and they where going to "just get rid of it"

1961 Impala, four door, straight six, auto on the tree, bench seats, interior in good shape. I'm thinking summer hoon car for parts runs and stuff at the shop. Always need another project. Or some other cool idea.

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Alfisted
03/30/09

@lilwillie: Is it a runner? I'd start at $500 or somewhere south, just to keep all future options open.
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lilwillie
03/30/09

@Alfisted:

Doesn't run, hasn't in 20 some years. Will need brakes all the way around, some transmission attention and some help in the engine, which still turns over. Tires, battery and fluids across the board and some seals here and there I bet.
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.357
03/30/09

@lilwillie:That could potentially turn into something quite awesome. I would try maybe $500.00 or a bit lower if it doesn't run.
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beercheck
03/30/09

@lilwillie: I'm singing baritone in the $500 initial offer chorus. Has title, I hope.
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John Krewson
03/30/09

@lilwillie: Yellow AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND plates still on? Send 'em to me! Then don't buy the car. After all those winters it'll be a mess and a half.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
03/30/09

@lilwillie: If there's not a tremendous concentration of tin worm, I say start at 800 or so.

And it's a '62, by the way.
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beercheck
03/30/09

In reply to Tobey Maguire To Play Racing Legend Phil Hill In The Limit
...and, as one, all of Jalopnik kissed their sisters.
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Stick Shifts and Safety Belts
03/30/09

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If the movie can produce exhaust notes that trump the recordings from Le Mans, I'm in.

But if I hear one over played sound effect throughout this entire movie (even if it's a sex scene) I will amputate myself in the theater.
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SirNotAppearing
03/30/09

@(LS1 powered) mchale2020: What exactly will you be lopping off?
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vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in
03/30/09

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They got the 2003 MTV Best Kiss award winner to play Phil Hill? How long do I have to wait for this cinematic masterpiece?
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.357
03/30/09

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So Toby Maguire will go from playing Spiderman
IMG src="http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/04/26/spiderman-web.jpg"
To playing Phil Hill.
IMG src="http://www.automoblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/phil-hill.jpg"
To me, it seems like they could have got someone better.
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.357
03/30/09

@.357's motto: F*ck The World:Dammit. One more try:

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Alfisted
03/30/09

In reply to Tobey Maguire To Play Racing Legend Phil Hill In The Limit
Tobey Maquire? Really? Topher Grace and Frankie Muniz aren't available?
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vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in
03/30/09

@Alfisted: At least Frankie has racing experience. Oh wait...
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.357
03/30/09

@Alfisted:Frankie Muniz has a bit of racing experience. He's came in last in at least 5 races.
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.357
03/30/09

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So Tobey Maguire is going from this:
IMG src="http://media.mlgpro.com/site/images/features/spiderman_7.jpg"
To this:
IMG src="http://static.blogo.it/motorsportblog/PhilHillNurburgring1961Ferrari....jpg" Makes Sense.
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Bertone77
03/30/09

@.357's motto: F*ck The World:

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.357
03/30/09

@bertone f*cking 77: I posted below. Sorry for the fuck-up.
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Maxichamp
03/30/09

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In other news, Kelsey Grammer will play Reubens Barrichelo in his biopic.
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