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    From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo

    1988 Peugeot 505 Turbo

    Index Of Effluency Bar Set Unreasonably High For Thunderhill: Peugeot 505 Turbo or Chevy Corvair?
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    505s are all but extinct in the UK, although near me there is a 505 Dangel 4x4 which shows up occasionally. I will take photos some day...
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    @Armand: at 1:15... are they rallying with no seat belts? Just lap belts?
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    06/14/09

    @subscript: Right. And I'm pretty sure Monsieur Todt's t-shirt isn't made of Nomex.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    Hey, Murilee, did I ever tell you that my parents used to have a few Peugeots? Actually, some would go so far as to call me a Peugeot enthusiast.
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    06/14/09

    @Armand: No! I must confess that I've only owned one Peugeot (a 504) in my life, though my parents did have a pair of Fiat 128s when I was a kid.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    Pugs have a less than stellar rep in the US, but here in SoCal I still see many 25 year old 505s with massive mileages happily trundling around in stylish Gallic indifference, and if you go to anywhere in Africa and many third world countries, you see not only tons of 505s but 504s as well. What gives? How come so many euro cars are seemingly hopelessly unreliable in the US but they do just fine elsewhere?
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    06/14/09

    @superveloce: Rust-TheirEnemy? The Brits have the same opinion of Peugeots, afaik.
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    06/15/09

    @superveloce: Either they're not able to deal with cold or wet climates, or it's an issue of death by a thousands cuts, where in a third world setting, all that's really needed is the engine cranking. Or, they've just got more awesome taste in cars than we do.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    The precursor to the LeMans winning 908 Hdi FAP! Take that, you useless Audi Quattros!


    What, exactly, btw, does FAP stand for? I don't really want to know how the French engineers feel about their creation, if it is what I think it is.

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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    This is my favorite 505 commercial with the car jumping though the window:


    [www.505turbo.com]


    BTW that car is actually a turbo despite the ad being for the V6 model. Peugeot later sold that very car to Victor Van Tress who won the 1987 and 1988 SCCA SSB class national championships with it (he still owns the car too).


    A whole bunch of Peugeot videos can be found here:


    [www.505turbo.com]

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    06/14/09

    @solracer: Awesome. And if you like 404s and 504s, here's a little treat for you:



    Also, the navigator of the 1975 East African Safari-winning 504 Coupe is Jean Todt, former head of Ferrari.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    Why did they have to win Le Mans?
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    06/14/09

    @Tucker589: Audi wasn't doing as good.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    Love the undersell: "Better than many other cars..."


    And seeing that family sedan creel around the corners, why hell yes! Sign me up! French racing!

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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    I have yet to figure how the suby tractor trailer wheels ending up on a french sedan form the same era, same reare bolt pattern, WAY beyond bad coincidence...The peugeot looked nice with the cassic feminist wheels, for those that caught onto my very opinion. It made the mismatches all the more WRONG...and then they pretended it was a rally car. Go french go! Way to go france..look at what they did with a boxer engine. Hilarious. Almost as "reverse your thinking" as a honda! Gimme those 505 wheels dammit!
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    06/14/09

    @bdon: Nissan, Chevy, and I think Ford all share the same 6 lug bolt pattern.
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    06/14/09

    @TexanIdiot25- needs a edit buton... EDIT: Needs an edit but...: You can swap wheels between Jeep XJs and Ford Ranger/Explorer/Aerostars, too. If you like.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    I'm not sure I could live with a car that would be constantly surrendering and collaborating with Benzes and BMWs.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/14/09

    @Rican5.0: Well, you could have worse company. You could have some British engineered vehicles that collaborate with the Prince of Darkness.
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    06/14/09

    @Rican5.0: Wow, a French surrender joke? That's almost as funny a those posts about China in which people replace all the l's in their comments with r's...
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    06/14/09

    @franzouse: Rersonally, I really rike the Rench.


    Rut, ren again, Ri'm a racist, ro my rote dosen't rount.

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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    I need one of these in my life. A Pug is French, unreliable and French. I want one in full rally livery.
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    06/14/09

    In reply to From The World Rally Championship To Your Driveway: 1987 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    There's a lovely 505 Turbo parked just up on Magazine, near the pizza shop at which my friend used to work. Made for some great low-key nights--have DB slip me a free pizza, watch the traffic go by, admire the lone silver Pug... what a life!
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    01/09/09

    In reply to 1988 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    My dad taught me to drive stick in a 1985 Pug turbodiesel. I'm eternally grateful for his patience with me as he'd get me to practice panic stops in an empty A&P parking lot. That Peugeot was a great car, when it was running. Dad ended up trading it for a FWD Sedan de Ville when the repairs became too frequent/costly.
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    01/09/09

    In reply to 1988 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    I've mentioned my Peugeot fixation before. Actually, I mentioned it yesterday for the QOTD. But Murilee has thrown down the gauntlet, so I'll repeat it: When I was born, my mother had a '71 504 and my dad had an '83 505. The 505, if you ask pretty much any member of my Peugeot-addicted extended family, was the point when Peugeot quality started going downhill. Dad's first Pug, a '63 404, lasted for 350,000 miles before he traded it in for the '83 505; Mom's 504 got sold when the odometer rolled over 250,000. The 505 lasted for around 20,000 miles before the engine failed so spectacularly that Peugeot offered to replace the car at a steep discount rather than repairing it under warranty. At this point, Dad decided it would be a good idea to upgrade to a 505 Turbo.

    The turbo was a fast, competent car. Faster than Dad's friend's BMW 635, or his co-worker's Maserati Biturbo, or my grandfather's Audi 5000 turbo Quattro. But it spent all its time in the goddamn shop, and unlike the earlier Peugeots it couldn't be held together with baling wire and happy thoughts. Once the turbocharger failed. When I say "failed," I don't mean the oil lines broke and the compressor seized or the housing developed a leak. When I say "failed," I mean "exploded, sending shards of turbocharger all around the engine compartment."

    Even if Peugeot had stayed in the American market, I'm pretty sure the 505 Turbo would have been our last French car.
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    01/09/09

    In reply to 1988 Peugeot 505 Turbo
    Yeah a Cinc-cent-cinq! As much as I love this car as a Sedan, I still think the station wagon variant is better , and of course Dangel got their hands on that one too!
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    01/09/09

    @franzouse: Station wagon 504s and 505s were awesome, but they had live rear axles instead of the trailing-arm IRS in the sedans. Not that that slowed any Dangel 505 wagons down in the Paris-Dakar Rally...
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    01/09/09

    @Armand Bengle: Merci pour l'info :)
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