Firing up the "engineerd Press Release Summarizer" (patent pending) for the second time this morning:
35 more parts will be available for your new Mustang, none of which will make it faster. We at Roush are proud of our floormats, though. When we finally get the bugs worked out of the supercharger you can spend another few thousand dollars to compete with a new Camaro.
...Here at Roush we have found that the public's desire for tuner Mustangs is recession proof as we set a record last year for Roush-logoed e-brake covers.
@jb: Ecoboost torque curve = OGC: I know. I was poking fun at the fact they are waiting to release the supercharger plus my constant gripe with Ford (I am a Ford guy) that the Mustang seems perpetually underpowered from the factory. You can spend over $30k for a new Mustang GT, but then you have to drop another few thousand to compete with the new Camaro SS, which comes from the factory with 400 hp at around $30k.
Historically, Shelby. Nowadays, probably a fair tie between Shelby and Saleen. Roush produces cars that are the match of Shelbys and Saleens, but isn't quite as well-known; kind of like the confident old guy that sits at the back of bar, whose is so confident in himself and kicked so much ass that he really has nothing left to prove.
That being said, I am not much of a fan of any of them.
@layabout now with V8 power: respected and mustang tuner shouldn't be in the same sentence, despite my hate for mustangs i believe that tuning them makes it worse ! i am yet to see a non-riced mustang tuner !
@pauljones: Interesting views,as you probably know it's not a car that's really sold in the U.K.,the only Mustangs i've seen here are generally owned by flash types with bad haircuts & big egos that think they own the best car in the world. They're not a favourie of mine as i prefer the look of the older,classic Mustangs.
I am not a huge Mustang guy either, for the same reason that yo pointed out about their stereotypical owners. They are also still a little behind in the tech category, too.
But at the same time, part of what makes Mustangs so great isn't how much they have evolved over the past 40 years, but rather how little they have evolved. They started out as sporting little machines that were simple and had tons of potential. And, rather than going through monumental revolutions from model to model, they have simply undergone evolutionary changes to suit the time that they are being sold.
And, after all these years, that hasn't changed. It can be argued that they have been hampered by added weight and options, but there isn't much that can be done about that. Some of the weight has to do with meeting US safety standards, and you can still order a stripper version without all the options.
When it comes down to it, each progressive Mustang, while not revolutionary, has done one thing and one thing well: offer more of the same, only better. And for the Mustangs target audience, that's all they really want.
So, from that standpoint, I may not care as much for Mustangs, and I may not care for their stereotypical owners at all, but I do respect them, and I do respect the big tuners like Roush, Saleen, and Shelby that tinker with them.
Seriously. Good one you for being original and keeping it original. The only other person I know with an original, stock, completely unmodified Mustang is my young cousin, as she doesn't care about going all that fast, just about having something that looks cool. It, too is a V6, but has an auto.
@pauljones: When I first got it I started looking at all the performance goodies I could get for it. Even being a V6, there is a sizeable market for add-ons.
And then I stopped and pulled my head out of my ass.
The Mustang was originally a sporty, fun, reasonably-priced car. Yes, it can be modified about a million different ways to make it perform better. But that's not really why I bought it.
I bought it because I like the styling and I needed something with better fuel mileage than my F150.
I don't want it to be riced out. I don't want it to be faster than it is. I want it to be pure Mustang.
Well, duh, roll the little car up on the roof. Whee!
Or maybe you could mount a nice davit up on the roof and swing it up between the AC and the vents? And you could have your kayak/canoe/raft on top of the little car.
The amount of compromise you have to make vs. towing a car aren't really worth it here. I mean, I can't think of a situation where navigating a 40' beast is appreciably easier than a 40' PLUS an extra 10' on the back. Big whoop.
@Ash78: Yes, but you don't account for trailer backing syndrome combined with the old person purchasing market. Most people can't back a trailer, and old people pay for convenience devices if they have the money.
if you want to see something on this planet, chances are good a wholly viable substitute is located on this continent
I've said something to this effect many times before. North America really does have pretty good representative examples of lanforms, flora, and fauna. I've seen a lot of very beautiful places, but I think that as far as natural beauty is concerned, the US is at (or near) the top of the list.
@Ash78: Yeah, i totally agree about the waste of money. You and I seem to care a lot when it come to money, depreciation, used cars...These people just don't care when it comes to conspicuous consumption.
@Ash78: If you're pulling a trailer in California the max the speed limit is going to be for you is 55. If you're driving an RV without a trailer the speed limit is the same as a normal car. Plus, this thing is $1.2 million. If you were dishing out that kind of cash would you want to be seen towing some plebeian trailer? I think not.
@Sloop_John_B: I've learned my depreciation lessons the hard way, I guess.
But I'm still an RV fan. Just not something like this. If I do it, I'm going with something like an f-150 and a modest, yet spacious fifth wheel to tow around.
When I was in college, million-dollar rigs would park right on campus and sit around for several days waiting for the game on Saturday. I guess it got under my skin a little.
@Timtoolman, now with power tools!: Absolutely...Europe has us beat on just about everything architectural or human-created. I was only speaking to nature.
Though the Spanish fort in my native town of St. Augustine is a rare exception: Late 16th century, still very much intact.
Funny, my wife said to me after my job wasn't working out, "we should travel before we get old and crippled".
I'm down with that.
We've since found the Canadian Rockies make the US Rockies look like a bad first-draft, and you ain't seen flat until you've been to Manitoba/Saskatchewan and seen the soy in bloom. With a light breeze, there is nothing between you and the horizon but quite literally a sea of blue. It truly looks like water at first glance.
What's nice is I understand why people make such a fuss over the autumn leaves in the NE, and Nova Scotia had me looking at a globe to see just how far Scotland was. I can easily see why it was named New Scotland. Pictures cannot do pretty much anything which you'd want to see, justice.
Grand Canyon? You just have to stand on the edge and say, "damn..."
@Ash78: I thought it was so you could have both a runabout car and a boat. If you had to tow the car, where would the boat go?
And as far as the natural beauty found in the US, it is hard to beat. I am working on convincing the wife that a road trip from Michigan to California would be good. We could take the "northern route" there and the "southern route" back and cover a good chunk of the country. She's not one for long road trips, so I just keep working at it.
Who else thinks the Mini looks built to be that RV's dingy? Isn't it perfect?
That's the only picture I've ever seen of a Mini where it looks like its supposed to be there. The Mini always struck me as the awkward teenager of the car world, and it looks as if we've found its bedroom with black drapes and My Chemical Romance CDs.
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35 more parts will be available for your new Mustang, none of which will make it faster. We at Roush are proud of our floormats, though. When we finally get the bugs worked out of the supercharger you can spend another few thousand dollars to compete with a new Camaro.
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...Here at Roush we have found that the public's desire for tuner Mustangs is recession proof as we set a record last year for Roush-logoed e-brake covers.
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Also, seeing as the engine didn't really change, I don't forsee many bugs. ;)
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Historically, Shelby. Nowadays, probably a fair tie between Shelby and Saleen. Roush produces cars that are the match of Shelbys and Saleens, but isn't quite as well-known; kind of like the confident old guy that sits at the back of bar, whose is so confident in himself and kicked so much ass that he really has nothing left to prove.
That being said, I am not much of a fan of any of them.
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@pauljones: Interesting views,as you probably know it's not a car that's really sold in the U.K.,the only Mustangs i've seen here are generally owned by flash types with bad haircuts & big egos that think they own the best car in the world. They're not a favourie of mine as i prefer the look of the older,classic Mustangs.
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I am not a huge Mustang guy either, for the same reason that yo pointed out about their stereotypical owners. They are also still a little behind in the tech category, too.
But at the same time, part of what makes Mustangs so great isn't how much they have evolved over the past 40 years, but rather how little they have evolved. They started out as sporting little machines that were simple and had tons of potential. And, rather than going through monumental revolutions from model to model, they have simply undergone evolutionary changes to suit the time that they are being sold.
And, after all these years, that hasn't changed. It can be argued that they have been hampered by added weight and options, but there isn't much that can be done about that. Some of the weight has to do with meeting US safety standards, and you can still order a stripper version without all the options.
When it comes down to it, each progressive Mustang, while not revolutionary, has done one thing and one thing well: offer more of the same, only better. And for the Mustangs target audience, that's all they really want.
So, from that standpoint, I may not care as much for Mustangs, and I may not care for their stereotypical owners at all, but I do respect them, and I do respect the big tuners like Roush, Saleen, and Shelby that tinker with them.
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I have heard that 99% of all Mustangs are immediately shipped to Roush, Saleen, Shelby and Yemen.
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Seriously. Good one you for being original and keeping it original. The only other person I know with an original, stock, completely unmodified Mustang is my young cousin, as she doesn't care about going all that fast, just about having something that looks cool. It, too is a V6, but has an auto.
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And then I stopped and pulled my head out of my ass.
The Mustang was originally a sporty, fun, reasonably-priced car. Yes, it can be modified about a million different ways to make it perform better. But that's not really why I bought it.
I bought it because I like the styling and I needed something with better fuel mileage than my F150.
I don't want it to be riced out. I don't want it to be faster than it is. I want it to be pure Mustang.
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Or maybe you could mount a nice davit up on the roof and swing it up between the AC and the vents? And you could have your kayak/canoe/raft on top of the little car.
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When your RV breaks down, you can get the Maserati out, hitch it to the RV and tow that sumbitch to the nearest service station.
Plus, where I live, you could get about four parking tickets at time in that. Very efficient.
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Sure! That option only costs $450,000! A bit entry level, but if you want, you can always upgrade that little F-350 to an International MXT later.
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Just seems like it adds probably a half million to this rig, while destroying the storage capacity. Seems like a lose-lose in a lot of ways.
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The key is, with the car on the back, you can't back up.
Well, you can, but only about four feet before things start to bend/break.
Our 40' beast, with a 'toad', is 57'. A challenge in some places, but nothing like coming across a 9 foot wide opening with a 102" wide vehicle.
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if you want to see something on this planet, chances are good a wholly viable substitute is located on this continent
I've said something to this effect many times before. North America really does have pretty good representative examples of lanforms, flora, and fauna. I've seen a lot of very beautiful places, but I think that as far as natural beauty is concerned, the US is at (or near) the top of the list.
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But I'm still an RV fan. Just not something like this. If I do it, I'm going with something like an f-150 and a modest, yet spacious fifth wheel to tow around.
When I was in college, million-dollar rigs would park right on campus and sit around for several days waiting for the game on Saturday. I guess it got under my skin a little.
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Though the Spanish fort in my native town of St. Augustine is a rare exception: Late 16th century, still very much intact.
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Funny, my wife said to me after my job wasn't working out, "we should travel before we get old and crippled".
I'm down with that.
We've since found the Canadian Rockies make the US Rockies look like a bad first-draft, and you ain't seen flat until you've been to Manitoba/Saskatchewan and seen the soy in bloom. With a light breeze, there is nothing between you and the horizon but quite literally a sea of blue. It truly looks like water at first glance.
What's nice is I understand why people make such a fuss over the autumn leaves in the NE, and Nova Scotia had me looking at a globe to see just how far Scotland was. I can easily see why it was named New Scotland. Pictures cannot do pretty much anything which you'd want to see, justice.
Grand Canyon? You just have to stand on the edge and say, "damn..."
02/06/09
And as far as the natural beauty found in the US, it is hard to beat. I am working on convincing the wife that a road trip from Michigan to California would be good. We could take the "northern route" there and the "southern route" back and cover a good chunk of the country. She's not one for long road trips, so I just keep working at it.
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That's the only picture I've ever seen of a Mini where it looks like its supposed to be there. The Mini always struck me as the awkward teenager of the car world, and it looks as if we've found its bedroom with black drapes and My Chemical Romance CDs.
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Yo home dog!
We heard you liked stashing dead hookers in your trunk, so we made you a trunk that you can stash your trunk stashed with dead hookers in.
You be pimpin' fo shizzy, home dog.