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    Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go

    Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    All this, and still no word on a sequel to McBain. Come on Glickenhaus-get your priorities straightened out.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    As usual, in the end, Italy sides with America.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Let's start lining up the Presidential Medal of Freedom for him right now.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Do mind that he won't be able to call it a Ferrari or a Pininfarina or maybe even a P4/5 and can't use the name NART unless he get people to let him use the name.

    And there's like only one major racing organization that'll allow this car to run at a race...
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    11/19/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: It's gonna be more than $500 so LeMons is out.
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    11/19/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: NHRA? It needs more blower and wheelie bars in that case.
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    Image of FrankRizzo FrankRizzo
    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    The original P 4/5 was based on a "still shrink wrapped Enzo" IIRC. Since there are no more Enzos to be had, what's THIS beast gonna be based on?

    (Yes, I know it'll be constructed completely out of unobtainium, I'm asking about the base car).
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    11/19/09

    @FrankRizzo: Well, it's midengined, so that rules out a couple of Ferraris. I'm guessing it's 458. The proportions seem to match up, and the amount of hood over the front wheels, as seen from the side-profiles, match the 458 better than the 430.

    But heck, it's just a guess. It could be based on a brand new Ferrari hypercar for all I know.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Confirms P4/5 Competizione Is Go
    Meanwhile, in the Fourth Circle of Hell, Plutus prepares Glickenhaus's bespoke chest-weight for an eternity of jousting with spendthrifts.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: That is rich. Nice.
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    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: This gets my first COTD nomination in a couple of months. Nicely done!
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    Image of Foo2rama Foo2rama
    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    So as I see it, the thing will be a tube chassis with a Ferrari engine, using the body work designed for his 1 off p4/5. My question is how is that body going to work under race conditions. Where this car is going to compete it will be against downforce cars, and as far as I know the p4/5 body was never really wind tunnel tested for racing purposes. I see alot of lift in the bocy with little in the way creating downforce from the body. I smell a Mercedes CLR-GT fiasco when they start to race it.
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    09/28/09

    @Foo2rama: The flipping CLK GTRs wasn't an issue of "a lot of lift in the body", as I recall.
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    09/29/09

    @area_educator: No it was not enough downforce or lift spoilers... A car body naturally promotes lift, esp cars with underbody drag reducers, they are really just big wings. When you factor in light weight and high speed you run into issues. You do not need a super car for this to happen, the first Gen Audi TT had lift problems while it was limited to only 155mph, they recalled all the TT's and put spoilers on the back to stop the high speed lift issues. My point is that this body was never designed for racing, it may have been windtunnel tested, but nothing like the work they put into the MC12 or the Enzo, even then Ferrari will not race the Enzo, and only the MC12. Even Mercedes admits that the CLR was not tested in the wind tunnel long enough.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    I don't like Ferraris. Even among Ferraris, I don't like the Enzo. I don't have any particular desire to become a wealthy investor or producer so that I can amass a large collection of Ferraris. I don't really care for Ferrari owners or their Formula 1 team. Generally, what I like is angry little economy cars stuffed full of turbos, Brembos and AWD, and Ferraris do not fit this profile.

    Despite this, I think the P4/5 is staggeringly awesome, and I applaud James Glickenhaus for building a fresh one to go racing. Kudos, sir.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    I thought his original Coach P 4/5 was a travesty. For some reason, when all done up in a racing livery, I actually think this thing looks fantastic.

    Amazing what a little paint job can do for a car.
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    Image of SinisterSaracen SinisterSaracen
    09/28/09

    @thepeel:

    Compared to the Enzo I thought it looked fantastic, and was a fine homage to the P3/4.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    Technically the enzo was raced in lemans, FIA GT series, ALMS and a couple ofother series. Although with a different paintjob and a body kit (all joking aside it was bad ass). They called it the Maserati MC12. Not to different from what I assume the P4/5 will take on.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maserati_MC12
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    I suspect that Mr Glickenhaus 's definition of "it's not going to cost Crazy money" is a bit different than mine. For the record my definition would be "under $500".
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    Image of KurtAnakes KurtAnakes
    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    My Humanitarian Efforts are Through "The Glickenhaus Foundation" and are quite separate from my hobby.

    P 4/5 Competizione will be powered by a Ferrari V-12 and be built on a Ferrari chassis but it won't be Enzo based.

    Best
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    09/28/09

    @KurtAnakes: It wasn't criticism. I love this idea.
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    09/28/09

    @KurtAnakes: The P 4/5 remains one of my favorite vehicles to come out of Pininfarina. I look forward to seeing it run around the track. Is Pininfarina involved in this endeavor?

    Good luck with the vehicle.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    wht isnt he the president of the whole wide world?
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    We should all reflect on the moral example set by Mr. Glickenhaus using great wealth for the greater good. May God bless his humanitarian efforts.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Glickenhaus Plans Race-Ready P4/5 Competizione For 2010!
    More power to him! It's so rare to see a custom coach built version of a car that blows the original away, visually. Maybe he'll manage to blow the original away in racing? (Are Enzos raced in any serious numbers?)
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