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    The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!

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    Image of Monaco Monaco
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Surely the greatest movie intake-manifold-related disaster since Back to the Future III, when Doc blew the Delorean's clear off the car while trying to run it on whiskey.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    11/20/08

    @Monaco:

    WRONG


    I hate to correct you but he blows the carburetor, which mysteriously rockets out from BENEATH the car.


    WHATEVER, DOC BROWN.

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    Image of bzr bzr
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    I've never seen a single Fast and Furious movie.


    Which makes it worse when people go, "oh, so you like cars then? Have you ever seen The Fast and the Furious?"

     Reply
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    Image of biminitwst biminitwst
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    That looks suspiciously like one of those overpriced Gallo motors to me.
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    11/20/08

    @biminitwst:
    Stupid hamsters ate my hyperlink:


    [www.bumwine.com]

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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    11/20/08

    @biminitwst:


    holy hell, that link has had me in tears laughing for a good 5 minutes...

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    Plecostomus [Tyrrell] was starred Plecostomus [Tyrrell] was unstarred
    Image of crankcase - always getting the shaft crankcase - always getting the shaft
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    29 psi! The guy's lucky the manifold blew and not the head gasket, or holing a piston.
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    crankcase - always getting the shaft was starred crankcase - always getting the shaft was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/20/08

    @crankcase: Yeah 29psi->Eclipse is like Iceberg->Titanic...


    I know the Eclipses are considered "Tuner Cars" but they hold together under strain about as well as a bran muffin.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @bpapa9013: That's why they're always getting tuned.


    I had a room mate that was in a DSM club. Standard consumables for an oil change included the head gasket and occasionally a piston.

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Did his dashboard start leaking washers and other various hardware as well?
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Oh I love Fast and the Furious! It's like a giant game of MadLibs!


    "You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car... [slang term for negative driving action], not [slang term for positive driving action] like you should. You're lucky that [automotive performance item/action/part] didn't blow the [automotive engine part] on the [larger automotive part]! You almost had me?"


    "You tell him [long-form tough-guy character-name]. Get out of here!"


    "Now, me and [tough-sounding sidekick nickname] got to [automotive repair action] the [automotive part]... and replace the [smaller automotive part] you [impossible action done to smaller automotive part that majority of audience won't notice]. Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you [cliché] [cliché] or [cliché]. [Cliché] is [cliché]."

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome:

    Dethair madlibs:

    [something awesome]


    Well done.


    Not you, guy who welded that manifold.

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    11/20/08

    @Dr.Danger, I run the Death Star: Dearthair, crap crappity crappie!


    fingers, don't fail me now

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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: Oh I love Fast and the Furious! It's like a giant game of MadLibs!


    "You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car... [building subpar machines in the 70s, 80s, and 90s], not [planning for long-term success] like you should. You're lucky that [mismanagement] didn't blow the [pensions] on the [entire UAW]! You almost had me?"


    "You tell him [Bob Lutz]. Get out of here!"


    "Now, me and [Rick Wagoner] got to [beg the US Congress]... and replace the [profits] you [steadily whittled away by building undesirable cars until the momentum was too much to overcome even with much-improved products like the Malibu]. Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you [blame the Prius] [blame the housing crunch] or [blame the economy as a whole]. [A poorly-run car company] is [a poorly-run car company]."

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @theeastbaykid: Am I allowed to nominate you for a COTD in response to my own comment? I'm killing myself laughing here.
     Reply
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @Dr.Danger, I run the Death Star: Spell it right, Jeff. Or are you Mr. Stevens?
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    Deartháir II was starred Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    11/20/08

    @theeastbaykid: booyah!


    Topical humor is fun.


    Hey, Murphy, blah-blah-blah John Sununu.

    Murphy, blah-blah-blah Tipper Gore.

    Hey, Murph, you can't blah-blah-blah-blah the Ayatollah.

    Murphy Brown: Blah-blah, Bishop Desmond Tutu, blah-blah.

     Reply
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: Nah, once you laid the groundwork, it was set up for the usual fish-in-a-barrel environment that comes with making fun of GM. If there is a COTD to be had, it goes on your mantel.
     Reply
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @theeastbaykid: Definitely a COTD.
     Reply
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    I never had a problem with this scene. Ever owned a turbo DSM? That's pretty much what they do.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    ok, sorry, this is not FF4 or turbo manifold related at all-
    Is there an editor on board? My grammar has never been great, but Jalop is constantly screwing up it's vs its.
    "blown the welds on it's intake manifold"
    FAIL
    here's the word from [www.elearnenglishlanguage.com]
    "The confusion between it's and its occurs because on virtually every other word 's indicates possession, so English speakers naturally want to use it's to mean "something belonging to it." But it's is only used when it's a contraction of it is or it has.


    The ironclad rule - no exceptions - is that if you can replace the word with "it is" or "it has," use it's. Otherwise, it's always its."


    Sorry, I just finally flipped out. My job has been sucking lately and I really need to back away from the caffeine.

     Reply
    SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @SlowMo: Ah! The grammar police.


    This should be interesting.


    Hope your not wasting you're time!

     Reply
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: Sorry, my grammar sucks and I fully acknowlege it but I've noticed they've done it several times recently and I cracked. I'm really just jealous that their job is awesome and recently mine has been quite the opposite. My apologies for being a nudge.
     Reply
    SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @SlowMo: Go easy. It's the intern, judging by the photos from a while ago, I think he's about twelve years old. He's doing a damn good job for a pre-teen.
     Reply
    Deartháir II was starred Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of rkwadd rkwadd
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: Fuck going easy. If Jalopniks getting into events on journalist passes, they can edit there content for gramar.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @rkwadd: My internet-brain-filter edited out your intentional errors, and as such I originally missed your humour. I thought, "My, he's angry."


    It's getting to the point where my brain filter is becoming so strong, I can't remember the right way to write anymore. Er... write way? Shit.

     Reply
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    11/20/08

    @rkwadd: "they can edit there content for gramar"... but you sure can't!
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    acarr260 was starred acarr260 was unstarred
    Image of Al Navarro Al Navarro
    11/20/08

    @SlowMo:

    I'll be your second on this matter. Small errors like an incorrectly used "it's" are like a pimple on Summer Glau. Everything else is great, but you see that zit and kind of focus in on it. It's almost as if the awesomeness of the rest of the package (your post or Ms. Glau) makes the minor imperfection worse/more obvious.


    As you were. And rkwadd...next time check yoself before you wreck yoself.

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    Image of Andrew Didorosi Andrew Didorosi
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: Twelve and a half, thank you very much.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @SlowMo: None necessary! Nice to have something non car-related to grizzle over!
     Reply
    Rust-MyEnemy was starred Rust-MyEnemy was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Hahahahahhahaha. Awesome.
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    Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was starred Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Well, we can get a good idea of what sort of person we are dealing with.


    ...me and my buddy were...


    ...had blew up


    ...break [sic] booster line.


    I weep for our future.


    Can someone please tell me why no one thought to install a blow off valve?

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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/20/08

    @smalleyxb122: "Can someone please tell me why no one thought to install a blow off valve?"


    It just wasn't in the script.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @smalleyxb122: I'd have thought they would have done, as dump valves go "Ftisshhh" loudly, which is cool, impressive, and makes girls want to have sex with you.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: So you're saying

    Blow-off valve + yellow car = Axe Body Spray ad comes true?


    Epic win.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @Mad_Science: Like, totally. 18" Rims + Lynx Deoderant = mucho penetrative action.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: My ex was able to tell when I was on my way home from the other side of town. She could hear the engine rev, but it was the "Psssht" sound of the dump valve that really confirmed it was me.


    Now that I am single, I have proven that the blow-off valve does not seem to make girls want to have sex with me.


    That may also be because I am rather funny-looking, however.


    Do I need a larger blow-off valve, then?

     Reply
    Deartháir II was starred Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of Unevolved has three moving parts. Unevolved has three moving parts.
    11/20/08

    @smalleyxb122: I'm curious why you're so sure there wasn't a blow-off valve, and how it would have helped when he was running at WOT.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/20/08

    @Unevolved 8.04: He wasn't running at WOT. The weld popped just as the throttle was closed (turbo still spinning, but nowhere for the air to go) which will cause a spike in manifold pressure. A properly sized blow off valve will alleviate that pressure spike at a (hopefully) lower pressure than what would be needed to rupture that weld.
     Reply
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    11/20/08

    @smalleyxb122: Of course that assumes that he's got a poorly designed system that is throttled behind the turbo, and I'm just guessing that's the case.


    You know, now that I think about it, he'd have to be throttling the individual runners post-manifold for that to even be a concern.


    Either way, something was under-designed or under-built. I can't know for sure what unless I see the entire system.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: Yes. Also, isn't it hilarious that Dump valve and Blow-Off valve both apply to functions of the sphincter?
     Reply
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    $100 Internet dollars says the car that spat out that manifold has a wing large enough to land a Boeing 747
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Blowing the welds on the intake manifold didn't explain just how the fuck the passenger footwell fell out....


    Or how having a car topping out at 140mph as it runs out of revs suddenly gains extra gears when NOS is fitted....


    Or how I found Vin Diesel lifting Michelle Rodriguez by the ass onto the hood of a car attractive....


    Or why, crap as the film is, on watching it I still get a momentary urge to paint my A4 Lime Green, put enormous spoilers on it and shout NOSSSSSS! all the time...


    I propose all films be sold with a Poetic License rating as well as an age rating.

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    Rust-MyEnemy was starred Rust-MyEnemy was unstarred
    Image of layabout layabout
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: You'll be needing some Lambo doors for your A4 then,mmmmm classy!
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @layabout: As long as I remember to double-clutch like I should rather than granny shifting... i'll be fine.
     Reply
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: Didn't someone on here already do that? The lime green Audi, I mean.
     Reply
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: Or why a heavily modified Supra (1/4 mile - 13.1 seconds stock) barely wins a drag race against an F355 Spider (1/4 mile - 13 seconds).
     Reply
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    ...and for what it's worth, that thing's pathetic. I've done better welding with jumper cables and a coat hanger.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @Mad_Science: I'm fairly certain my intake manifold is cast aluminium. I didn't realize people actually had manifolds like the one pictured... particularly if running forced induction. Seriously, what did you *think* was going to happen to it?
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    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: If you're a good welder, it's actually a good method. Pretty much the only method, if you want a custom manifold. I know a few guys that routinely push over 30psi through manifolds a lot like that one and have no issues. Far from it, in fact. Something to the tune of 489whp through 1.7L on nothing but pump gas and forced induction.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/08

    @Unevolved 8.04: I defer to your superior knowledge on the topic. I suppose, when I give it some more thought, that 30psi really isn't that much force when you're talking about metal and welding. It seems like a lot, because we get used to the average stock boost levels being 8-12psi.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    11/20/08

    @Pope Deartháir II of Awesome: There are plenty of good fabricated aluminum intake manifolds out there. This one was just not particularly good.


    And I'm suprised that anyone at Jalopnik is suprised at the possibility of blowing up an intake manifold under high boost.

     Reply
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    11/20/08

    @elwood: I think most people here have seen a fab'ed intake.


    I'm surprised at the complete lack of penetration on the weld. The mating surfaces are still perfectly smooth.

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    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Having furiously refused to see any of those movies, I can only guess that "Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried!" is a line in one of them.


    I resent being implicated in any of this foolishness.

     Reply
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    11/20/08

    @Mad_Science: It gets far worse...

    [www.imdb.com]
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    11/20/08

    @Mad_Science: Also never seen any of them.


    From a young age, my dad turned me into a cynic about the laws of physics in movies. My suspension of disbelief is severely hindered on anything involving cars, airplanes, cliffs, falling, or being punched/kicked/shot/hit with baseball bat.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: It's amazing how few bruises and cuts people receive in all those fight scenes, or how quickly the ones they receive seem to heal.


    Notable exception to this rule: Bruce Willis in Die Hard. That guy looked like hamburger in jeans by the end of Die Hard 2.

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    11/20/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: The other reason I never saw any of them was that I would've surely gotten in a fight with some member of the audience.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/20/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: The one that bugs me is how quick people & the clothing that they're wearing naturally air dry within seconds of getting to dry land.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/20/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: I'd love to punch, kick, and then shoot someone with a baseball bat.
     Reply
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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    11/20/08

    In reply to The Fast and the Furious Validated: You CAN Blow the Welds On Your Intake Manifold!
    Too true. Just the other day my diamond-plate floorboards fell off.
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