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    Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
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    Image of Chaparral Chaparral
    03/31/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    Just wait till the 60k mile service interval. That is when you need to replace all of the brake hoses and the spark plugs.


    Here is the service and maintenance guide for the GT-R:


    [www.onlinefreeebooks.net]

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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    03/31/09

    @Chaparral: One of their technical writers obvisously has a sense of humor. There are SEVEN boxes to list the serial numbers of replacement transmissions in book! And if you actually drive a GT-R hard this is a 1,800 mile service, not a 18,000 mile service!
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    Image of drive_thru_disorder drive_thru_disorder
    03/31/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    if the engineering of your transmission needs fluids with supernatural physical properties this tells me


    your engineers suck.


    sniveling little troll cop-outs running to polymer and chemical engineers to help dig them out of the hole they CADD'd themselves into. all the while maintaining to keep their jobs and justify the payables to assorted consultants by giving product management and marketing the veritable reach around and arousing their blood lusts by feeding them saucy tales of revenue streams from hyper inflated specialty lubricants with exclusivity agreements.


    we built machines that take people to the moon 40 years ago and now an AT cant be built without some sort of skywalker jizz lubing the works!?


    Xrist!

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    03/31/09

    @drive_thru_again: See my comment above.


    I'm willing to bet this car was engineered to a price point and an on-paper spec sheet.


    Which meant when they came across the problems inherent to building a super-turboed 400hp AWD flappy-paddle compu-monster, they didn't spend the extra few thousand man-hours to fix issues like this. Which is why it costs 70k, not the 120k that "equivalent" (on paper) machines do.


    But all of this is a management call, not an engineering call.


    Also...depending on the "we" you're referring to, I'm pretty sure Nissan management had nothing to do with the moon landings.

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    Image of John Krewson John Krewson
    03/31/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    $9.67 more than I paid for my Miata. Which is a car you actually drive, not merely operate. Hmmph.
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    03/31/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    Just out of curiosity, anyone know what a dealer service on a 911 turbo runs? You know, seeing as how that was their target when developing the GT-R.
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    Image of SoK SoK
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    (finally, something normal)


    followed by


    Labor: $150


    For an Oil change made me laugh.

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    03/31/09

    @SoK: As far as I knew, every car had a book time of 0.3 hours for an oil change, that'd make this dealer's labour rate $500 per hour.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    "Talk about yer high cost of ownership, eh?"


    Ray... I think you're trying a little too hard to be Canadian. We appreciate it and all, but, really, it takes more than that to actually fit in up here.


    Pretty much, you'd need to have a blood transfusion. And Canadian blood is gonna run you about, oh, $115/litre.

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    03/30/09

    @Deartháir exists mostly to f*ck with new commenters: Serious? That means I'm out about $600. And to think I was giving it up for free cookies.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    Oh, no

    Sounds like it's gonna blow

    Go, go Cogzilla!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    Is it cheaper to lease one of these rather than race a proper car now, Trebek?
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    How do you make a $70k car that performs like a $120k car?


    You don't have your engineers spend extra time working out that "the only way our transmission holds together is with this ridiculously expensive fluid changed every $18k miles" issue.


    While I appreciate their performance and low purchase price, I do not expect these cars to age well.

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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    03/30/09

    @Mad_Science: As much as I'd love to disagree, I think you're right. They're going to be bought by three groups of people, the douchebags who buy them for status and don't maintain them properly (because of the cost), the ricers with money who will molest them (and likely cut corners on maintenance), and the wannabe racers who will flog them to within an inch of their life.


    I fear very few will make it to the used market in good condition, thus keeping the resale on them high.

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    Image of tяs tяs
    03/31/09

    @something_unique_and_descripti...: How about the fourth category, the responsible adult who wants a nice, fast car without the tiny dick stigma of an F430 or Gallardo?
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    03/31/09

    @tяs: They make an ointment for dick stigma now.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/30/09

    @FromaBuick6: Comment of the night.
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    This article should be referenced everytime someone mentions buying a new Ford Fusion and in response receives twenty comments telling them they'd be better off buying a five-year-old 335i/G35/C-Class/RS4, etc, etc.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    03/30/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: They'd still be better off, just not financially.
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    03/30/09

    @Mad_Science: true that.

    Elises for all.
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    03/31/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: Service on an Elise shouldn't be too bad, it's just a Celica drivetrain shoehorned into a street legal, adult sized go kart.


    Labor fee at the local Lotus dealer might be a bit obscene but material cost shouldn't be much worse than the Toyota.

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    Image of elwood elwood
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    Did anyone expect that owning a high-performance car like that would be a bargain endeavor?
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    Image of FLB is on vacation FLB is on vacation
    03/30/09

    @elwood: No, but it's almost as if Nissan is begging (i.e. trying to find new ways) so that people won't change the transmission oil on time and thus void the warranty.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    03/30/09

    @FLB: I guess I'm just not surprised that transmission fluid for such a specialized transmission is that expensive. I mean, there's no way they specced such expensive transmission fluid just for the hell of it. It's obviously the only thing that could meet the requirements.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    03/30/09

    @elwood: Probably 15% molybdenum, with tetraoctyl orthosilicate additives and pH balancing. You know, the kind of lubricant The Jade Emperor used for his nightly carnal rituals...
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    I'm no fan of manu-matics, but the one in the GTR does perform well when it's working. I'd be the first in line for a six-speed, but us traditionalists are in the minority. Just look at the auto/manual breakdown for standard Corvettes.
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    Image of stoke stoke
    03/30/09

    @theeastbaykid: Standard Corvettes are for men with silver goatees and black leather jackets with crossed flags on the back.


    GT-R's are for ninjas.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/30/09

    @stoke, now with RHD mail delivery hotness: Ninjas with 2" stiffies.
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    Image of leighzbohns leighzbohns
    03/31/09

    @stoke, now with RHD mail delivery hotness: GTRs are for the arab princes who douse themselves in cologne and wear the gayest jeans ever.


    Basically, they've ruined the GTR for me, and the viper. the 350z was already off the list.

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    Image of RB26Skyline RB26Skyline
    03/31/09

    @leighzbohns: Whatever happened to just driving a car that was fun to drive and not being concerned with what kind of person drives it. Yes lots of mid-life crisis grey haired men drive Vettes. I dont even particularly like them but I bet they are fun as hell to drive. GT-Rs and Skylines have terrible reputations from those Arab Princes and rabid 15 yr olds with Fast and Furious hard ons, but my Skyline is one hell of a fun car to drive. Its a shame that the ladies dont care what it is and the only attention I get is from those aforementioned 15 yr olds.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    03/31/09

    @RB26Skyline: No, it's just too bad you aren't Mark Foley.
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    Image of Lower Manhattan Lower Manhattan
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    What the hell -- Is that trans oil derived from illegally hunted whales? And here I thought VW/Audi DSG oil @ $18 per quart was expensive!
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    03/30/09

    @Lower Manhattan: The Japanese whales are harvested for "research" (with just enoughleft over to make ice cream, [www.who-sucks.com] or whale burgers[www.msnbc.msn.com] , and apperently GT-R transmission fluid)
    Does Whale oil count as a bio-fuel?
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    03/30/09

    @Lower Manhattan: No, no, it's Elephant semen... no shortage of willing donors but the guys who collect it, they're a rare breed to say the least.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    03/30/09

    In reply to Routine 18,000 Mile Nissan GT-R Service Price Tag: $2,000!
    This is why I will be buying a G37X coupe.
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