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Like a previous poster said, the 370's best feature to me is that there will be lots of cheap 350s around now.
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Ok, my apologies. For some reason I thought you were referring to what you yourself thought of it in the Camaro review, but instead you were talking about how it will be perceived by the general public:
"It'll beat its competitors hands down, not only in a numbers-based pissing contest, but also in the public's imaginations: an advantage presented by its futuristic-yet-retro styling."
Re-reading the last paragraph, you do make it fairly clear that it's an upgraded musclecar, and not much else. So yeah, my bad.
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SORRY, TEH CONSTRUCKSHUN GUYS EATED UR COOKIE
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...or for the average driver on the street, to make your passenger think you are a pro at leaving the grocery store.
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Perhaps some kind of character camparison of the new batch of front engine RWD sports cars is in order? (Genesis, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, 370Z etc)
Ignore all the technical specs and tell us which one gives you the best experience, plain and simple.
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How is turn-in? Steering feel? Brake effectiveness, fade resistance, feel? If you can't make a relatively light, high-powered RWD coupe that's made to oversteer, uh, oversteer perhaps you don't know what you're doing.
Sorry to be a dick, but that was lame.
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The 350Z was a huge disappointment and Nissan is one of the few manufacturers pushing a popular model in the right direction - more power, less weight, better overall product.
I think you are just pissed they stuck you with the slushbox... the manual is a blast.
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Then it's not the car he should be knocking, but his driving skills. (More so than the car)
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I'm not trying to come across as a douche, I was just trying to point out that we can't fault the car. Hell, this car actually implements a technology for everyday general-populace drivers, the rev-matching on the manual. Like I stated before, it just came off that way. It's kind of hard to grasp that something is better in every way, but less fun.
Now I'm definitely going to have to test drive one.
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I think that rev-match system is probably indicative of the car's overall character, it's great, but it does too much for you.
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to be fair, I only got to drive a 350Z convertible and it was terrible.
I have driven the 370Z with manual trans and I loved it.@Wes Siler: ahh... the same complaint (albeit on a different scale) that people have with the GT-R. The car is great and there isn't much left for the driver to do.
@Matt Hardigree: I think Nissan/Infiniti are putting out a lot of good vehicles right now - the new Z, the new Altima (great for the $), the G37 sedan is one of my favorites, the FX is quite fun to drive, and of course the GT-R. I think they are in a good place right now, in terms of offering vehicles that function very nicely on a daily basis, yet are still fun to drive - a mix that others fail to find on a consistent basis.
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Easy there, Merriam Webster...we didn't all go to Gudger College
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Wait, what? That's for real? Color me shocked!
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I guess I just don't understand that statement. The Z has almost always been about cutting edge performance and handling in a nice tight little package with medium sized balls. It seems to me like this car has evolved they way the wanted it to. No, it's not going to have the brute force like, let's say, a new V8 Mustang or Camaro. But then again it can drive cicrles around them on a road course. I don't think we should damn it just because it's too good at what it is. Maybe I'm just getting the wrong vibe from the write-up, who knows. Either way, you've made me hungry for BBQ now, and a test drive.
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I guess when I sit inside a car for the first time I do get a sense of character. Having improved the car in almost every way from the previous generation should increase it's character. I'm an average skilled driver myself but I still like to push my car to it's limits. Just because the car is more competent than I am doesn't mean that I will think it has no character. I'll just think that I'm not a good enough drive for what the car demands. I can see where Matt is coming from, I just think it came across like he was condemning the car because he couldn't handle it.
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