So it's a trim level lower than the S? I have an 08 SL HB myself. I get 35-38 mpg. It's about 5-6 mpg over the listed highway mpg. They aren't bad cars and aren't really cheap as far as interior.
$9,990, that's about what I want to spend on my next car. I'm currently considering:
-mid/late 1990s BMW 540i -nice late 1980s Mercedes 560 SEC -LS-1 Pontiac GTO (might have to wait a couple of more years for the depreciation to get down to my level) -late 1990s/early 2000s Mustang GT -nice BMW E36 or E46 2 door coupe, maybe even a E36 M3 -just spend about that on a crate motor, manual transmission swap, new interior, and paint job for my 77 Corvette
Everytime I hear Nissan Versa all I can think of is Hiro on "Heroes" screaming for a blue Versa at the rental car counter. I guess the in-show advertising is paying off for Nissan.
@econobiker: My g/f had a 94 Neon. Good luck to anyone who can find a 10 year old Neon that a) runs and b) whose interior hasn't fallen to bits. Hopeless cars, and these days about as safe as driving around in a cake tin on wheels. Very poor build quality and utterly shit crash protection - my g/f had a low-speed smash and it was wrecked. Any faster and she would have been seriously hurt.
I was one of those idiots that bought a first year Neon Sport. (5speed). The car arttled from day one, the front suspension squeaked and moaned over the simplest bumps, the clutch shattered (literally shattered as my mechanic brought me into the shop to prove what he has just witnessed) at 60K and the paint started to peel in layers/////Chrysler can suck one!
@Turbolence88: Damn the auto-collapse, I didn't see the punchline to your post until after I made mine.
It would be a lovely idea to have someone else run 'team creative accounting' and try and sell $8,490 off of a brand new Versa to run at LeMons, though. The blog would be a great read, as would the BS inspection.
@kleinlowe: That's F-ing brilliant! If you judiciously remove parts as opposed to what most people probably do (rip, hack, torch, etc.) you might be able to do it... Who needs nice new bumper covers for a LeMons Car? Sell 'em! Who needs Airbags at LeMons??? I hear they're good money, Sell 'em! Hell, maybe even the entire dashboard! Remove all the windows rather than smash them... Taillights, headlights, exhaust system (we're just going to run a straight pipe and cherry bomb)... new tires -too much tread- Sell 'em! Hmmm, it just might work...
@SlowMo: Most cars are worth MUCH more by the piece. I had my eyes opend to this with a rusty Fiat 850 that I had. I couldn't sell the whole car for $300. I made over $1,000 selling the parts and still had the rolling shell to donate to charity. This idea might work even better with something like a new Mustang. Sell the new engine and replace with your junkyard built 302, etc. Better market for the parts and more valuable parts too, more Mustangs get wrecked by kids, more parts demand.
@graverobber- It says Loud Pipes Save Lives: Time to put down that very loud pipe of yours there. It'll be better just as soon as the insects stop crawling around under your skin. Really.
Much, much better than the previous price champion (the only thing in which it'll ever be a champion), the lovely Kia Rio. Yes, I'd rather have a Fit or a Yaris or an xD or... but can't argue with $$$!
The 'cheap' Versa is available in sedan form only, and with a 1.6L engine instead of the 1.8. Transmissions are 5 speed manual or 4 speed auto. Although equipment wasn't mentioned in the presser, I wouldn't expect anything beyond a/c at that price.
I drove an Altima rental last week and, while it was peppy and all, I don't feel interior quality was anything to write home about. In fact, the armrest was loose and moved when I climbed in.
And I've been considering one as my next purchase...
@timtoolman: Kinda off-topic, but your comment is why I think automakers hurt themselves by dumping cars into rental fleets.
1) The car is usually a stripped-down model, so it's already the worst example.
2) Rentals are treated like crap, so usually things are worn/loose/whatever.
3) Cars take getting used to. With a few days in a car, you'll never get around to figuring out where you like to keep your cell phone, change, wallet, etc, so you're unlikely to really bond with the car.
...and if this is your only exposure to that model or brand, what does that do for your perceptions thereof?
Every morning, our local newspaper has ads for a "$7,999 Kia Rio", yet to get that price you have to get the state's $3,000 "junker rebate" for trading in a car older than 15 years. In fact, the cheapest Kia they sell is $14,000.
Given my plan to reduce my daily driver to something suited for slugging through traffic with minimal cost, while working for a true weekend racer project, this new Versa is exactly what I'm looking for in a daily driver. With Fits selling for $20k, Cobalts at $17k and Yari, well, undriveable, this doesn't look so bad at all.
@Chairman Kaga: In semi-defense of the Yaris, it's better than the Cobalt IMO. In my experience, the Fit is far and away the best ultra-compact, but at $20K you're in the kitchen of some more substantial machines.
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I didn't even know there was a Versa sedan. I guess I wasn't crazy when I thought I saw a tiny Sentra...
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-mid/late 1990s BMW 540i
-nice late 1980s Mercedes 560 SEC
-LS-1 Pontiac GTO (might have to wait a couple of more years for the depreciation to get down to my level)
-late 1990s/early 2000s Mustang GT
-nice BMW E36 or E46 2 door coupe, maybe even a E36 M3
-just spend about that on a crate motor, manual transmission swap, new interior, and paint job for my 77 Corvette
Everytime I hear Nissan Versa all I can think of is Hiro on "Heroes" screaming for a blue Versa at the rental car counter. I guess the in-show advertising is paying off for Nissan.
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Small car with an epa estimate that you could get by buying a 10 year old dodge neon for $2000.
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But seeing all these Aveos every day means that plenty of people still value cheap + new + warranty.
And frankly, Nissan is more likely to still be in business in a few years. Chevy, who knows?
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1.6L I-4 engine (standard)
Transmission (optional)
Windows (standard)
Front seats (standard)
Rear seats (optional)
Mirrors (optional, required by most states)
Exhaust (optional, also required by most states)
Steering knuckle (standard)
Steering wheel (optional)
Front brakes (standard)
Rear brakes (optional)
Brake pedal (optional)
All for $9,990? Sorry, I'll go buy a used LeMons racer. At least there's a slim chance it might have A/C!
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It would be a lovely idea to have someone else run 'team creative accounting' and try and sell $8,490 off of a brand new Versa to run at LeMons, though. The blog would be a great read, as would the BS inspection.
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Wait . . . what?
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Nice car, poor marketing strategy.
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which begs the question - wtf do you need a 6spd for in a car w/ a 120hp?
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The CVT in these cars feels even worse, but supposedly gets better fuel mileage...which I could't substantiate.
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And I've been considering one as my next purchase...
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1) The car is usually a stripped-down model, so it's already the worst example.
2) Rentals are treated like crap, so usually things are worn/loose/whatever.
3) Cars take getting used to. With a few days in a car, you'll never get around to figuring out where you like to keep your cell phone, change, wallet, etc, so you're unlikely to really bond with the car.
...and if this is your only exposure to that model or brand, what does that do for your perceptions thereof?
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Given my plan to reduce my daily driver to something suited for slugging through traffic with minimal cost, while working for a true weekend racer project, this new Versa is exactly what I'm looking for in a daily driver. With Fits selling for $20k, Cobalts at $17k and Yari, well, undriveable, this doesn't look so bad at all.
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