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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    Keep you damn slushboxes out of my "sports" cars, please? What do you want me to do, take up smoking just to give my left foot something to do?
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    11/30/09

    @Turboner: Thinks... Yes, yes I do!

    -Hands free cigarette-
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    11/30/09

    @DoogieFullHouser: good for her and all.. but wow.. i don't think i needed to see that...............
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    As a fussy bastard, I'm starting to take issue with most reviews of sports cars I ever read, and how they are drivers cars etc. etc. etc.

    Yeah, they are, compared to an Infiniti or something, and I've not driven the 370z. But I have driven the 350, and;

    The thing is, the limits are too damned high. There's loads of grip. Theres good weight distribution and masses of power. But unless you're really damn good (and I'm probably not) you don't really get involved other than aiming the car and pressing go.

    Personally speaking, and I know I'm probably wrong here, a Drivers Car is one where you can feel the limits and know what to do when you reach them. Like an old Capri or Ford Mustang. Primitive suspension. Skinny tyres and too much power for the chassis.

    That's where the fun is. Getting a "Whoa" moment at 60 and knowing how to catch it.

    In this, I just know any "Whoa" moment would see me doing a Nick Hogan.

    Give Nick a TR6 or a '68 Vette and maybe he'll learn something. Stick him in a Lambo with immense grip and power, and the soft tissue behind the helm starts to be a big problem.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: We've addressed that concern with the Z a couple of times, first in Matt's review:

    [jalopnik.com]

    Then in mine:

    [jalopnik.com]

    And I think it's a totally valid criticism. Luckily, there's an affordable, practical solution. Just buy a Hyundai Genesis Coupe, it makes all the same moves as the Z, but its limits are lower so it's more fun to drive in everyday conditions and for a wider range of drivers.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Oh, and here's that Gen Coupe story:

    [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @Wes Siler: Yeah, I read them, i'm totally with you and not hatin' or nuttin.

    I just think it's a shame so many people have forgotten what driving is all about.

    Keep up the good work by the way!
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Oh, how I agree with you. Friends with powerful and capable sports cars or luxosport sedans laugh at me when I tell them how much fun I had with a CRX, but they just don't understand. It was like driving a comfortable and rain-proof go-kart. Every outing was an adventure and a potential test of the car's ability. Light weight and not having scads of reserve power meant I was able to drive at 7/10 or 8/10 in conditions where the 370Z might be at 3/10. I learned all about what the limits of the CRX were. My friends will probably not get the chance to do the same in their ubercars.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @tonyola: Yep, I had an old Rover. Heavy, didn't handle, wasn't fast. And I had so much fun as it was at 8/10 pretty much the whole time.

    In fact you needed some skill to keep the damn thing pointing the right way.
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    Image of brick-geek brick-geek
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I know what you mean. I love my S60R. It is a wonderfully refined daily driver and can be sporty in advanced mode. However, I am just not comfortable pushing her to the limit. Maybe on a track somewhere, but certainly not on a public road.
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    Image of SlowMo (24hrs till pop-up headlight joy) SlowMo (24hrs till pop-up headlight joy)
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I agree. And I think that is a problem even with entry cars that new drivers are likely to own. A Ford Focus can probably out-handle many a 1980's sports car (that'd be a fun comparison article). So drivers just think they can go as fast as their engines will propel them and they only have to turn the wheel (like a lot of SUV drivers in the snow). Older, slower cars are way more fun because they keep you thinking about what the car is trying to do. Cars with super high limits scare me because I think I won't know I'm in over my head until I'm going much faster. I'll take 'em old and low-adhesion, thanks.

    Fantastic car and nice write up though.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/30/09

    With that kind of waist and that kind of price (up to $46K!!!) you'd think they'd splurge on a convertible hardtop.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R): It's just as well our friendly 'Lopnik scribblers seem to be able to drive a bit, and the write-ups are always worth reading.

    I'd love to see a few reviews of older cars, just to get a bit of context. What does a SVO Mustang feel like compared to a Genesis Coupe? That sort of thing.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @brick-geek: Hell of a car, the S60R. Anything that builds on the T5 legend is awesome, and a bit of understeer is fine in the right hands..
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    Image of SlowMo (24hrs till pop-up headlight joy) SlowMo (24hrs till pop-up headlight joy)
    12/01/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: I think that would be great. Like a 2L Alfa GTV vs mid-90's Sentra SE-R vs ... hmmm well, some small-ish fun 2-door sedan from today... maybe a 1-series? I always remember when Grassroots Motorsports put a Honda Odyssey minivan on an autocross course and compared it to a 365 and an E-type. It lost at first but they put some better tires on it and the minivan beat 'em both.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    It's nice to know that it drives and performs well, but I just can't get over the oddball looks it is sporting, and this is coming from a guy who likes the looks of the original 350Z coupes.
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    Image of Jeremy Jeremy
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2010 Nissan 370Z Roadster
    It looks really nice. Though I liked the last Z Roadster, too.
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    10/20/09

    In reply to Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition Celebrates Z-Car History
    Datsun badging would have been nice... #nissan370z
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    10/20/09

    In reply to Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition Celebrates Z-Car History
    It's no black gold. #nissan370z
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    10/20/09

    In reply to Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition Celebrates Z-Car History
    The cover photo reminds me of this photo.
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    10/20/09

    @Maxichamp:
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    10/20/09

    @Maxichamp:
    #nissan370z
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    Image of KTown_WhiteBoy KTown_WhiteBoy
    10/20/09


    @Maxichamp: Don't worry, I got ya covered. #nissan370z
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    Maxichamp promoted this comment KTown_WhiteBoy was starred KTown_WhiteBoy was unstarred
    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    10/20/09

    @KTown_WhiteBoy: Thanks. I'm a class A moron. #nissan370z
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    10/20/09


    @Maxichamp: I came in here to post exactly that same set. Let me see if my link works for embedding: if not, I'll just include the links in the post.

    [jasontang.virtuality.org]

    [wikicars.org] #nissan370z
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    Image of PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party. PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party.
    10/20/09

    @Maxichamp: I'd say someone should do the same thing with the Mustang but I know that somone would accidentally "forget" the Mustang II and then the Foxbody would come as a complete shock to the system as the 1973 shrinks to about half it's size. #nissan370z
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    10/20/09

    @Leeeeena the Jalopchick: How did you know that was what I was trying to post?! #nissan370z
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    10/20/09

    @Maxichamp: Magic!!! ;)

    Seriously, though, I just right-clicked your (broken) images and selected "view image". The real version of what you were trying to post shows up in a new tab, and I can go look at it at my leisure. I used that trick all the time back when we had our special little "durrrr" code to embed images and people would screw it up. #nissan370z
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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    10/21/09

    @PowerTryp forever Minardi: I still say the Mustang II ultimately saved the Mustang in the long run. They're due for that kind of size reset again. #nissan370z
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    10/21/09

    @TurboBrick [LIGIER]: I think a LOT of manufacturers and model lines are due for a size reset. I'd like to commend Audi and Mazda for their efforts at spearheading the diet program! #nissan370z
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    How did the 911 get behind the Cayman in the first place?
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    Image of dragon951 dragon951
    07/28/09

    @weatherman: Cause it started in last place
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    07/28/09

    @dragon951: well, I guess what I really meant is how could a 911 be on the same track as a Cayman and not win? Bad driver would be my guess.
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    Image of ViergangFuchs ViergangFuchs
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    I have to say that any of these "pro" drivers would have their asses kicked by the entire field of an SCCA regional. The driving is garbage. Let me count the ways:

    1) Riding the clutch under power. That's a no-no and it's exhibited by at least two of them.

    2) "Threshold braking" ABS cars way below the actual level of grip.

    3) Two-foot gaps between the cars, passing in midcorner instead of under braking,

    4) Abysmal wiggle-steer, presumably to put some showmanship into the presentation by making these very easy-to-drive cars look scary.

    5) Inability to left-foot brake.

    Stuff like this demonstrates why Ralf Schumacher wiped the floor with Formula Nippon.

    This "race" is no more indicative of the cars' abilities than a show-and-shine would be.
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    Image of Mark Arnold Mark Arnold
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    Hah! Check out the foot cam of the 370Z @ 6:45, looks like he goes to blip the throttle with his heel for a split second before remembering the synchrorev-match system.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    Why so muuch sawing back and forth with the wheel?
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    These cars are curiously unadorned with vinyl appliques of anime characters.
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    Image of layabout layabout
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    Why the shock that the Cayman S beat the Z,it also beat it on the TG track. The Cayman is a great car to drive.
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    Image of Adam Spano Adam Spano
    07/28/09

    @layabout returns:
    Also interesting is how the 911 with PDK came in behind the Z, if I remember correctly, the 911's beat all the Z cars by a wide margin in the 370z v. 911 shootout.

    The guy in the 911 could outbrake that Z all day long, he just didn't. Very early braking on the drivers part, it's almost as if they let it win.
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    layabout returns promoted this comment Edited by Adam Spano at 07/28/09 11:01 AM Adam Spano was starred Adam Spano was unstarred
    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    I bet the Z would have had the Cayman if it had started in the place of the 135i. The bimmer blocked lines and let the coxster get a huge lead.
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    07/28/09

    In reply to Best Motoring Races S2000, 135i, 370Z, Cayman S and 911
    Thanks, Jalopnik, for reminding me that I haven't watched any of my old BMI dvds on the new HD yet. I wasn't going to do anything on my day off anyway (other than haunt this website of course).
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