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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    This should make me lots of friends in NYs sizable Brazilian community. $8,500 is to be offset by all the free cachaça I'll be sure to receive.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    You know who'd drive this? PUMAMAN!!!
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    Cool car, and I said nice price, but I still think your garden-variety Karmann Ghia has a better, more sculptural body.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I was tempted to vote nice price until I realized I could have two Alfa Spiders for that price.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    The Puma GTEs of the '60 and early '70s were very pretty in an Italian sort of way (see picture). The styling became messier and coarser as the '70s wore on into the '80s. As others have mentioned, the Puma is essentially a factory kit car with somewhat better-than-average finish and all the air-cooled VW virtues and failings. Therefore its look will determine whether this is worth the price premium over a closed Karmann Ghia. Had this car been an early GTE, I'd say Nice Price on style alone. Since this '81 is not nearly as attractive, I'm closer to declaring a toss-up, leaning towards Crack.
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    Image of High Speed Indeed High Speed Indeed
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    Nice lines outside, but inside is a different story. The styling of the dash and the instruments is hideous. The rest of the interior isn't much easier the eyes. The floor mats are so dirty they look like they could grow corn.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I had to go with Nice Price on this one... $8,500 has not too much blue sky in it, and gives you plenty of headroom for other options (repairs/mods) down the road.

    A very reasonably-priced little weekend funmobile. They oughta work on cleaning up that interior while it just sits there, though - what'd the lot boy call in sick.... all month?
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 12/01/09 9:09 AM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I may be wrong, but I thought that Gennaro Malzoni only retained the Karmann Ghia's floor pan, drive train, but not the suspension. Also, I prefer the earlier Puma GTE with the plexiglass covered headlamps.
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    12/01/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: You are correct.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I like the Puma, always have.

    I also like the way it spawned several million me-too DIY abberations, built with varying degrees of competence by weekend wrench-wielders.

    Thing with the Puma, and all the above, is the Beetle which lies beneath. No matter how overbored your flat four, or how thorough your Subaru or Alfa engine swap has been, unless something fundamental is done with that suspension there is always the spectre of sudden snap-oversteer in that familiar swing-axle way.

    Those (presumably enlightened) souls I know with big-power Beetles will protest that that's all part of the charm, the fun. The risk of sudden and absolute violence. For me, I prefer my Rioja to be served without razorblades at the bottom of the glass.

    Crack-pipe for me, 'cos I don't got no cojones.

    I'll change to nice price when I grow a pair.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    12/01/09

    Drive it to the track. Race it. Drive it home. Repeat. Enjoy. Nice Price.
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    Yes, but Brazil (Brasil?) also gave us the Amazonas... Egads.

    The car is much better looking. It looks pretty clean. I'd say tentatively nice price.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    Much rather have a Puma that can samba, than a Cougar that only cha cha chas. This is probably the nicest looking aircooled VW you can get.

    The French may have invented the bikini, but I believe that the Brazilians perfected its filling. Think I'll chip away the ice today and head down to the beach.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    The Puma is somewhat sorta kinda rare, but its VW genetics ensure easy parts availability - for the mechanical stuff, anyway. Not only that, there's a small but enthusiastic Puma fan base in the States, so finding a voice of wisdom when you're stumped is just a mouse-click away. That's a nice price, amigo.

    The Puma crosses so many lines. It's an automatic in with German sports car fans - Porsche/VW, remember? So you have an uncommon car and something in common to talk about with metrosexual Boxster boy. And it's from Brazil, so you have a talking point with hippie hemp skirt fair trade girl. And it's a VW at heart, so you can commiserate with bloody knuckles weekend mechanic guy. For its social icebreaking abilities alone, the Puma is a far-reaching nice price.
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    Edited by Elhigh at 12/01/09 7:51 AM Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I've always liked the Puma, but this is pricier than I typically see them sell for. Even though it's a factory car, they have always had an air of kit car about them, and that keeps the prices out of the stratosphere. Well, that an the relative lack of performance. This one should address some of the power issues with the hot-rodded VW mill, but the fiberglass shell will still feel like a pretender to all but the most savvy car guys.

    It's desirable and rare, but for $8500, it's got a lot of desirable and rare competition for your dollars.

    It is with a heavy heart that I vote a marginal crack pipe, and hope that it comes down a couple of grand to the $6500 range.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    Um, didn't the French invent the bikini?
    I voted nice price.
    Like many a creature you meet in life, the outside is attractive, the inside is simple.
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    Image of muhnkee_2 - Avantime Owner and 100% Jaloper muhnkee_2 - Avantime Owner and 100% Jaloper
    12/01/09

    @Novaload:
    the french may have invented it, but brasilians perfected it, when living in brasil my wife was asked by our cleaner "lady, why do you wear such big ugly underwear? you are young and pretty you should wear things that show what you have"
    Halleluiah to that!!!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/01/09

    @Novaload: The French invented it, but Brazil adopted it as their own, sent it to college, and made it into a national treasure. Then they sent it to Dr. Shrinker and what's left is really there to point up what is (barely) hidden. Yes, nudity is still unlawful in many areas. But a few pieces of thick yarn, artfully draped, means you're not nude, so it's all good.

    Very, very good.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @Novaload: Bikini Atoll? Not sure about the French, but I know the Americans blew the shti out of it...
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    12/01/09

    @Novaload: With Brazil & the Bikini, it's kinda like the BASF slogan: "We don't make a lot of the products you buy - we make a lot of the products you buy... better."
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    Image of Earl_of_Gumout Earl_of_Gumout
    12/01/09

    @Elhigh: Amen to that, Sir!
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/01/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Invention: Bikini

    Inventor: Louis Reard, France

    Year: 1946

    How Invented: Designer Reard first presented his revealing creation at a Paris fashion show on July 5, 1946, four days after the American atomic detonation on Bikini Atoll. Both events caused international repercussions, and Reard coined bikini to reflect his concept of "the ultimate." The first bikini was cotton, printed with a newspaper design, and was worn by dancer Micheline Bernardi. Her photo was printed around the world. She received some 50,000 fan letters.

    So you could say, they were both "the bomb!" -- also the French had a prior skimpy bit of clothing called the "atome" -- must have been damn near microscopic!
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    12/01/09

    @Novaload: Guys, you note that I said "bikinis" with the intention of referencing the micro-thongs that are seemingly common on the beaches of Rio, and not "bikini," which the French indeed did invent. Sorry for the confusion.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/01/09

    @Graverobber: I think we should forget about cars and concentrate on micro-thongs instead.

    Get our priorities right.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/01/09

    @Graverobber: How do you know so much about bikinis? (end Sir What's-His-Name voice from "Holy Grail."
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/01/09

    In reply to Puma Lets You Brazilian Wax for $8,500!
    I think if it was detailed and passed muster with a mechanic, Nice Price. You can't go wrong with what is essentially an aircooled VW.
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